Hi! I'll try that. I'am quite new to 'nix OS'es so I need to read up on bug submitting and triaging and in generall on 'nix use and commands. If you have a short step by step guide it would help much and go much faster if I ever can get that much of control over the mashine to actualy be able to get any work out of it. In what ways does live cd and wubi installs differ when it comes to extracting log information? Is there other logs that might be of interest? To get these logs is it the only way to let ubuntu boot all the way to GDM or can I boot into a shell and get some info that way? Is there a way to get an Ubuntu wubi install to force boot into Safe graphics mode? I think that is the only way if at all to be able to solve this problem. Thanks for all help and incurragement. \Peter --- Den tis 2008-08-19 skrev Brian Murray