Comment 107 for bug 130325

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Bryan Haskins (bryan-h) wrote : Re: [Bug 130325] Re: [nvidia-glx] 3D GL apps crash X when using compiz due to unmaked ABI change (gutsy)

Exactly =]

But it's unlikely the package will be taken in to gutsy, all it does
afaik is remove the patch with causes incompatibility, this patch is
needed for mobile devices, as said earlier in the bug chatter.
Technically it's not something we should work around. though for the
sake of a good user product... well it's complicated.

Essentially until nvidia updates you will see user rolled xorg packages
floating around, so in main we have the xorg which pressures, to
whatever level they choose to ignore, nvidia in to updating.

Is it a pita for new users? Totally. But in the end it will get the job
done, which is fixing the driver, not working around it to break other
things that we've developed.

Ralf Nieuwenhuijsen wrote:
> Maybe I am missing the point ..
>
> 1) Compiz is not on by default for NVidia
>
> But if you own an Nvidia card, then there is no compiz by default!
> Why do people insist on claiming that there is?
>
> You are M-A-N-U-A-L-L-Y installing an U-N-S-U-P-P-O-R-T-E-D driver.
> After which compiz is enabled by default, because the driver _claims_ it supports 3d.
> Unfortunately this driver is incompatible with the particular XServer of Gutsy, hence the driver crashes.
> If this is not fixed before gutsy launch, i'm pretty sure nvidia will be on the blacklist and compiz will not be enabled for Nvidia users.
>
> No freaking reason to disable compiz for Intel videocards, because
> Nvidia won't work. That makes no sense.
>
> 2) There is test package of xserver that FIXES those issues. If you
> bother to read the whole thread you would know that. You can test that
> package yourself. The more people that claim that it 'works' .. the more
> likely the patch will be included in gutsy.
>
> When the patch is included in gutsy and it fixes the problem, then
> nvidia won't need to be blacklisted.
>
> 3) There are valid arguments against enabling compiz by default for
> anyone. But this aint one of them. This is nvidia-specific crashes, for
> which a working patch exists, that have got nothing to do with compiz.
>
> Stop the FUD please.
>
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