Michael: thank You for your help on this matter but I am afraid I corrected the problem by reformating my computer with Ubuntu 8.10 again. If the problem shows itself again I will apply Your fix and let You know if it helps. I had no idea that someone would be responding to this bug so quickly, I asked for help from the Ubuntu forum but no luck there so I just reformated, next time I get a bug I will be sure to wait a while before I go to that extreme. Kind Regards Windy > Michael Vogt