[Browser] F11 should toggle app-level fullscreen

[Ugo Riboni]

Pressing F11 should toggle the application level fullscreen.
Note that this is different from page level fullscreen, which is triggered by the page itself.

We should research if we want to merge the two concepts so that for the user there is only one notion of fullscreen and only one way to exit fullscreen, regardless of how it was activated (F11 or page interaction).

Or if we want to have to have one way to escape app level fullscreen (e.g. F11) and one to escape page level fullscreen (e.g. ESC)

[Design Comment]
Agree with Bill Filler & Olivier Tilloy's first suggestion (i.e. concepts should be merged/ be consistent). It would appear they do not need to be mutually exclusive, so:

- If Page triggers fullscreen: Navigating back/away from page that triggered FS, Pressing f11 (toggle FS/ Windowed) or Pressing Esc (return to windowed from FS only) returns to windowed mode.

- If User triggers fullscreen: Navigation has no effect on FS/ Windowed modes, Pressing f11 (toggle FS/ Windowed) or Pressing Esc (return to windowed from FS only) returns to windowed mode.

[Bill Filler (bfiller)]

we should merge the concepts I think so there is one notion of fullscreen regardless of how it's triggered

[Olivier Tilloy (osomon)]

If the page itself issued a fullscreen request, navigating away from this page would return to windowed mode.
If the user requested fullscreen, they would expect the window to remain fullscreen while navigating.

This is how other desktop browsers behave.

[Olivier Tilloy (osomon)]

Note that in chromium on desktop, when fullscreen is triggered by the page, both ESC and F11 exit it (whereas when requested by the user, only F11 exits it).

[Olivier Tilloy (osomon)]

Added an ubuntu-ux task to get guidance from a UX designer: wouldn’t it be confusing for people to have two different ways to exit fullscreen mode (ESC and F11) depending on the kind of fullscreen mode (page-initiated or user-initiated)? Should we also map F11 to exiting page-initiated fullscreen?

[Olivier Tilloy (osomon)]

Note that firefox on desktop behaves similarly: F11 toggles fullscreen mode regardless of how it was initiated, whereas ESC works to exit fullscreen mode only when page-initiated. The difference with chromium is that hovering the mouse towards the top edge of the screen temporarily reveals the chrome.

[Bill Filler (bfiller)]

Yes we should map esc and F11 to exiting page and/or app full screen mode

> On Jun 17, 2015, at 6:20 AM, Olivier Tilloy <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> Added an ubuntu-ux task to get guidance from a UX designer: wouldn’t it
> be confusing for people to have two different ways to exit fullscreen
> mode (ESC and F11) depending on the kind of fullscreen mode (page-
> initiated or user-initiated)? Should we also map F11 to exiting page-
> initiated fullscreen?
>
> ** Also affects: ubuntu-ux
> Importance: Undecided
> Status: New
>
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> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1464333
>
> Title:
> F11 should toggle app-level fullscreen
>
> Status in Ubuntu UX bugs:
> New
> Status in webbrowser-app package in Ubuntu:
> In Progress
>
> Bug description:
> Pressing F11 should toggle the application level fullscreen.
> Note that this is different from page level fullscreen, which is triggered by the page itself.
>
> We should research if we want to merge the two concepts so that for
> the user there is only one notion of fullscreen and only one way to
> exit fullscreen, regardless of how it was activated (F11 or page
> interaction).
>
> Or if we want to have to have one way to escape app level fullscreen
> (e.g. F11) and one to escape page level fullscren (e.g. ESC)
>
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[John Lea (johnlea)]

+1

On 17/06/15 12:19, Bill Filler wrote:
> Yes we should map esc and F11 to exiting page and/or app full screen
> mode
>
>
>> On Jun 17, 2015, at 6:20 AM, Olivier Tilloy <email address hidden> wrote:
>>
>> Added an ubuntu-ux task to get guidance from a UX designer: wouldn’t it
>> be confusing for people to have two different ways to exit fullscreen
>> mode (ESC and F11) depending on the kind of fullscreen mode (page-
>> initiated or user-initiated)? Should we also map F11 to exiting page-
>> initiated fullscreen?
>>
>> ** Also affects: ubuntu-ux
>> Importance: Undecided
>> Status: New
>>
>> --
>> You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
>> Apps bug tracking, which is subscribed to webbrowser-app in Ubuntu.
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1464333
>>
>> Title:
>> F11 should toggle app-level fullscreen
>>
>> Status in Ubuntu UX bugs:
>> New
>> Status in webbrowser-app package in Ubuntu:
>> In Progress
>>
>> Bug description:
>> Pressing F11 should toggle the application level fullscreen.
>> Note that this is different from page level fullscreen, which is triggered by the page itself.
>>
>> We should research if we want to merge the two concepts so that for
>> the user there is only one notion of fullscreen and only one way to
>> exit fullscreen, regardless of how it was activated (F11 or page
>> interaction).
>>
>> Or if we want to have to have one way to escape app level fullscreen
>> (e.g. F11) and one to escape page level fullscren (e.g. ESC)
>>
>> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/1464333/+subscriptions
>>
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This bug was fixed in the package webbrowser-app - 0.23+15.10.20150618-0ubuntu1

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webbrowser-app (0.23+15.10.20150618-0ubuntu1) wily; urgency=medium

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