Upstart log files are not reopened after rolling

[Pat McGowan]

Seen on stable and proposed vivid based touch images
I noticed on two of my devices that after a scheduled rolling of the files in /var/log/upstart that there were no active *.log files at all.
The config for upstart includes nocreate but this has always been this way.
Is this intended or did something change in logrotate?
A similar bug report states that the files will be opened on a subsequent write from the upstart process, but this is clearly not happening.

See http://askubuntu.com/questions/481236/upstart-not-reopening-log-files-on-logrotation
and perhaps bug #1350782

[Pat McGowan (pat-mcgowan)]

This is making it difficult to debug in some cases

[Oliver Grawert (ogra)]

well, if there are actual writes the files should be re-created ... are they also not created newly after a reboot ?

[Pat McGowan (pat-mcgowan)]

Once there is activity on the system after a reboot I do see some logs being opened but not for all processes.

But prior to the reboot, I was using the tablet and no logs were open
for example http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/17177401/

[Oliver Grawert (ogra)]

note that ~/.cache/upstart is not /var/log/upstart :)

so we are looking at session logs here ...

[Pat McGowan (pat-mcgowan)]

Yes, but both sets are in the same state, I originally noticed and reported against the system logs