| 2012-03-05 10:42:15 |
Matthew Paul Thomas |
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| 2012-03-05 10:42:15 |
Matthew Paul Thomas |
attachment added |
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screenshot https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/947008/+attachment/2816324/+files/update-notifier%20menu.png |
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| 2012-03-05 20:17:01 |
Jason Conti |
bug |
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added subscriber Jason Conti |
| 2012-03-06 21:25:00 |
Brian Murray |
update-notifier (Ubuntu): importance |
Undecided |
Medium |
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| 2012-03-19 10:19:23 |
Matthew Paul Thomas |
description |
update-manager 1:0.156.6, update-notifier 0.118.1ubuntu1, Ubuntu 12.04 beta 1
On upgrading from Ubuntu 11.10 to Ubuntu Pangolin, Update Manager stopped working properly. Instead, an orange starburst icon started appearing in the menu bar whenever updates were available, with a menu containing miscapitalized "Show updates", "Install all updates", etc.
Supposedly this menu is present only when dconf com.ubuntu.update-notifier.auto-launch is set to False. But it is, and (as far as I know) always has been, set to True.
I don't know why the setting isn't working, but it is an example of the cost of implementing settings that shouldn't exist. There is no point in displaying a menu unasked that exists solely to provide access to a dialog box, instead of just opening the dialog box unasked. Showing updates, installing updates, and accessing the update settings are all the same number of clicks from the dialog as they are from the menu, if any other windows are in front of the dialog when it opens, or even fewer clicks if no windows are in front of it.
The indicator menu and the com.ubuntu.update-notifier.auto-launch setting should be removed. Fixing this would also resolve bug 249367, bug 265313, and bug 891421. |
update-notifier 0.118.1ubuntu1, apport 1.93-0ubuntu2, Ubuntu 12.04 beta 1
1. Install xubuntu-desktop (for example, for someone else to use on the same computer).
2. Log in to a Unity session.
3. Trigger a crash (e.g. at a terminal, "sh -c 'kill -SEGV $$'").
4. Wait for software updates to become available.
What happens:
3. A red explosion menu appears, and a notification bubble saying "An application has crashed on your system (now or in the past). Click on the notification icon to display details."
4. An orange starburst menu appears, with miscapitalized items "Show updates", "Install all updates", etc.
What's wrong with this:
* There's no point in showing a menu that contains only an item to open an alert box, instead of just opening the alert box.
* No, it wasn't an application that crashed, it was a terminal command.
* "(now or in the past)" is awkward.
* "Click on the notification icon"? What's a "notification icon"?
* We know that a tiny orange starburst isn't enough to get people to install updates promptly.
* It doesn't follow the design specification in either case.
<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker#error>
<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdates#Launching_automatically>
This bug has two causes. First, there exists a dconf key com.ubuntu.update-notifier.auto-launch, and update-notifier goes off the reservation if the key is set to false. And second, xubuntu-desktop installs a /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/20_xubuntu-default-settings.gschema.override that sets auto-launch=false, even if you aren't using a Xubuntu session yourself.
This is an example of the cost of implementing settings that shouldn't exist. Dealing with errors, showing updates, installing updates, and accessing the update settings are all the same number of clicks from the respective dialog as they are from the menus, if any other windows are in front of the dialog when it opens, or even fewer clicks if no windows are in front of it.
The indicator menus and the com.ubuntu.update-notifier.auto-launch setting should be removed. If the Xubuntu developers want different behavior, they should implement their own notifier. Fixing this would also resolve bug 249367, bug 265313, bug 752017, and bug 891421. |
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| 2012-03-19 10:19:46 |
Matthew Paul Thomas |
summary |
update-notifier inappropriately uses an indicator menu |
update-notifier inappropriately uses an indicator menu if xubuntu-desktop is installed |
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| 2012-06-26 20:37:20 |
Matthew Paul Thomas |
description |
update-notifier 0.118.1ubuntu1, apport 1.93-0ubuntu2, Ubuntu 12.04 beta 1
1. Install xubuntu-desktop (for example, for someone else to use on the same computer).
2. Log in to a Unity session.
3. Trigger a crash (e.g. at a terminal, "sh -c 'kill -SEGV $$'").
4. Wait for software updates to become available.
What happens:
3. A red explosion menu appears, and a notification bubble saying "An application has crashed on your system (now or in the past). Click on the notification icon to display details."
4. An orange starburst menu appears, with miscapitalized items "Show updates", "Install all updates", etc.
What's wrong with this:
* There's no point in showing a menu that contains only an item to open an alert box, instead of just opening the alert box.
* No, it wasn't an application that crashed, it was a terminal command.
* "(now or in the past)" is awkward.
* "Click on the notification icon"? What's a "notification icon"?
* We know that a tiny orange starburst isn't enough to get people to install updates promptly.
* It doesn't follow the design specification in either case.
<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker#error>
<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdates#Launching_automatically>
This bug has two causes. First, there exists a dconf key com.ubuntu.update-notifier.auto-launch, and update-notifier goes off the reservation if the key is set to false. And second, xubuntu-desktop installs a /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/20_xubuntu-default-settings.gschema.override that sets auto-launch=false, even if you aren't using a Xubuntu session yourself.
This is an example of the cost of implementing settings that shouldn't exist. Dealing with errors, showing updates, installing updates, and accessing the update settings are all the same number of clicks from the respective dialog as they are from the menus, if any other windows are in front of the dialog when it opens, or even fewer clicks if no windows are in front of it.
The indicator menus and the com.ubuntu.update-notifier.auto-launch setting should be removed. If the Xubuntu developers want different behavior, they should implement their own notifier. Fixing this would also resolve bug 249367, bug 265313, bug 752017, and bug 891421. |
update-notifier 0.118.1ubuntu1, apport 1.93-0ubuntu2, Ubuntu 12.04 beta 1
1. Install xubuntu-desktop (for example, for someone else to use on the same computer).
2. Log in to a Unity session.
3. Trigger a crash (e.g. at a terminal, "sh -c 'kill -SEGV $$'").
4. Wait for software updates to become available.
What happens:
3. A red explosion menu appears, and a notification bubble saying "An application has crashed on your system (now or in the past). Click on the notification icon to display details."
4. An orange starburst menu appears, with miscapitalized items "Show updates", "Install all updates", etc.
What's wrong with this:
* There's no point in showing a menu that contains only an item to open an alert box, instead of just opening the alert box.
* No, it wasn't an application that crashed, it was a terminal command.
* "(now or in the past)" is awkward.
* "Click on the notification icon"? What's a "notification icon"?
* We know that a tiny orange starburst isn't enough to get people to install updates promptly.
* It doesn't follow the design specification in either case.
<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker#error>
<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdates#Launching_automatically>
This bug has two causes. First, there exists a dconf key com.ubuntu.update-notifier.auto-launch, and update-notifier goes off the reservation if the key is set to false. And second, xubuntu-desktop installs a /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/20_xubuntu-default-settings.gschema.override that sets auto-launch=false, even if you aren't using a Xubuntu session yourself.
This is an example of the cost of implementing settings that shouldn't exist. Dealing with errors, showing updates, installing updates, and accessing the update settings are all the same number of clicks from the respective dialog as they are from the menus, if any other windows are in front of the dialog when it opens, or even fewer clicks if no windows are in front of it.
The indicator menus and the com.ubuntu.update-notifier.auto-launch setting should be removed. If the Xubuntu developers want different behavior, they should implement their own notifier. Fixing this would also resolve bug 249367, bug 263513, bug 752017, and bug 891421. |
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| 2012-06-26 21:10:13 |
Matthew Paul Thomas |
description |
update-notifier 0.118.1ubuntu1, apport 1.93-0ubuntu2, Ubuntu 12.04 beta 1
1. Install xubuntu-desktop (for example, for someone else to use on the same computer).
2. Log in to a Unity session.
3. Trigger a crash (e.g. at a terminal, "sh -c 'kill -SEGV $$'").
4. Wait for software updates to become available.
What happens:
3. A red explosion menu appears, and a notification bubble saying "An application has crashed on your system (now or in the past). Click on the notification icon to display details."
4. An orange starburst menu appears, with miscapitalized items "Show updates", "Install all updates", etc.
What's wrong with this:
* There's no point in showing a menu that contains only an item to open an alert box, instead of just opening the alert box.
* No, it wasn't an application that crashed, it was a terminal command.
* "(now or in the past)" is awkward.
* "Click on the notification icon"? What's a "notification icon"?
* We know that a tiny orange starburst isn't enough to get people to install updates promptly.
* It doesn't follow the design specification in either case.
<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker#error>
<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdates#Launching_automatically>
This bug has two causes. First, there exists a dconf key com.ubuntu.update-notifier.auto-launch, and update-notifier goes off the reservation if the key is set to false. And second, xubuntu-desktop installs a /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/20_xubuntu-default-settings.gschema.override that sets auto-launch=false, even if you aren't using a Xubuntu session yourself.
This is an example of the cost of implementing settings that shouldn't exist. Dealing with errors, showing updates, installing updates, and accessing the update settings are all the same number of clicks from the respective dialog as they are from the menus, if any other windows are in front of the dialog when it opens, or even fewer clicks if no windows are in front of it.
The indicator menus and the com.ubuntu.update-notifier.auto-launch setting should be removed. If the Xubuntu developers want different behavior, they should implement their own notifier. Fixing this would also resolve bug 249367, bug 263513, bug 752017, and bug 891421. |
update-notifier 0.118.1ubuntu1, apport 1.93-0ubuntu2, Ubuntu 12.04 beta 1
1. Install xubuntu-desktop (for example, for someone else to use on the same computer).
2. Log in to a Unity session.
3. Trigger a crash (e.g. at a terminal, "sh -c 'kill -SEGV $$'").
4. Wait for software updates to become available.
What happens:
3. A red explosion menu appears, and a notification bubble saying "An application has crashed on your system (now or in the past). Click on the notification icon to display details."
4. An orange starburst menu appears, with miscapitalized items "Show updates", "Install all updates", etc.
What's wrong with this:
* There's no point in showing a menu that contains only an item to open an alert box, instead of just opening the alert box.
* No, it wasn't an application that crashed, it was a terminal command.
* "(now or in the past)" is awkward.
* "Click on the notification icon"? What's a "notification icon"?
* We know that a tiny orange starburst isn't enough to get people to install updates promptly.
* It doesn't follow the design specification in either case.
<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker#error>
<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdates#Launching_automatically>
This bug has two causes. First, there exists a dconf key com.ubuntu.update-notifier.auto-launch, and update-notifier goes off the reservation if the key is set to false. And second, xubuntu-desktop installs a /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/20_xubuntu-default-settings.gschema.override that sets auto-launch=false, even if you aren't using a Xubuntu session yourself.
This is an example of the cost of implementing settings that shouldn't exist. Dealing with errors, showing updates, installing updates, and accessing the update settings are all the same number of clicks from the respective dialog as they are from the menus, if any other windows are in front of the dialog when it opens, or even fewer clicks if no windows are in front of it.
The indicator menus and the com.ubuntu.update-notifier.auto-launch setting should be removed. If the Xubuntu developers want different behavior, they should implement their own notifier. Fixing this would also resolve bug 249367, bug 263513, bug 280387, bug 322238, bug 752017, bug 891421, bug 906826, bug 917200, and bug 934517; and probably also bug 414202, bug 654553, and bug 987202. |
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| 2012-11-01 15:39:10 |
Evan |
tags |
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whoopsie-daisy |
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| 2013-05-09 22:24:41 |
Steve Langasek |
update-notifier (Ubuntu): status |
New |
Triaged |
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| 2013-06-03 20:36:27 |
Brian Murray |
update-notifier (Ubuntu): assignee |
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Brian Murray (brian-murray) |
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| 2013-06-03 20:36:31 |
Brian Murray |
update-notifier (Ubuntu): status |
Triaged |
In Progress |
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| 2013-06-03 20:55:45 |
Launchpad Janitor |
branch linked |
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lp:update-notifier |
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| 2013-06-04 18:34:19 |
Launchpad Janitor |
update-notifier (Ubuntu): status |
In Progress |
Fix Released |
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