Comment 294 for bug 332945

Matt Wheeler, LanoxxthShaddow: We removed the icon because we're trying to reduce the number of items in the notification area, and update-notifier was an easy one to start with because Notify OSD forced us to solve the "'Click the icon'? What icon?" problem anyway.

hurga: I agree, I'd rather the window wasn't minimized; see for example <http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10012663o-2000498448b,00.htm>. As for putting this to a vote: just as with most other Free Software projects, interface design in Ubuntu is not, and has never been, driven by votes. We collect valuable ideas from mailing list discussions, forums, bug reports and so on, but vote-driven design would make it extremely difficult for Ubuntu ever to become suitable for an audience wider than those already using it. And I know it's easy for me to say that since I'm actually on the Design team, but if you can find any example of me suggesting "put the issue up for a vote" about any human interface design issue in any software project ever, I shall wash out my mouth with soap and water at UDS and put the video on YouTube.

John Clemens: The issue of trying to guess when is the best time to interrupt people is a tricky problem for notifications in general. Unfortunately, "never" is not a viable choice for a mass-market OS on an Internet-connected computer. If you have specific suggestions of heuristics we could use to choose more appropriate times, we'd be delighted to hear them.

mac_v: My current plan is that corrected settings for Software Sources, and AppCenter 1.0 (not necessarily by that name), will both appear in Karmic. The Brainstorm page you link to has the curious property that all three points in the Rationale are factually incorrect, which is likely to bias the voting even more than the natural bias of people who are interested enough to use Brainstorm in the first place (though again, this isn't about voting).

Uwe Schilling: Update Manager doesn't ask for your password unless and until you actually click "Install Updates". So you would then be relying on people to think "Well, it's asking me for my password just like it usually does when I click that button, but I won't enter it this time because I didn't open the window myself to begin with". That seems far too indirect and obscure to be a realistic defence.