Comment 167 for bug 332945

> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:03:03 +0000
> From: <email address hidden>
> Subject: Re: [Bug 332945] Re: [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information
>
> >ddumont, that something is years-old and well-established does not mean
> >it is correct. (For example, applications have been asking for over 25
> >years whether you want to "save changes" to documents, but that's always
> >been nonsense and should be fixed eventually.) Nor does it mean the
> >behavior should be configurable. (Though in this case, it is.) And we're
> >obviously not "choosing to ignore" feedback, albeit that your unhelpful
> >tone makes that quite tempting.
>
> I apologise for my "tone" but you must realise that your opening statement
> sounds rather arrogant.
> Who are you to decide what is right and what is wrong? We are the users, we
> get to decide.
>
> In fact, judging form the length of this thread and the number of dupes, I'd
> say that the feedback has been a rather resounding "no" to your proposed
> change and I hope that you consider backing it out completely until a less
> annoying solution presents itself.

I would just like to add that if you think these are only few people missing their feature. Please go read the forums. You can do a simple search you will find so many people are asking for where is the icon, why am I not notified of updates.... And if you don't think this is a big deal, then you might want to read comments like:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7032536&postcount=32

    Re: No new updates notification
   thanks so much for the fix. does the circle still come up when it has to restart?

People are trained to do something and expected it there now. It does not mean you can't change it, but you need more the just:

"Using a notification icon to advertise updates is a bad idea first because it's not obvious, and second because it makes installing the updates gratuitously difficult."

The worst part of all this is, and maybe it is just me, I only get once chance to do something. And if I can't do it now or notice it, since it will be opened in background, I have to wait until next reminder, which can be a week for updates, or remember it myself....how is this secure. This is one of the things I like about the icons; I don't really want to manage this window, let me hide it, but I can always bring it back or hover over the icon to see what it is and what it wants me to do.

Also no one really care that dev went out of there way to provide settings button on the update manager, so options like how often to automatically check for updates are more visible. Now I can have this option set to daily, like I have, and I will get notified week later. Were does it say that??? How is this very user friendly?

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