It is not configurable by everyday users... That setting is not explicitly
supported.  When it breaks, everyone who relies on it will be SOL.


On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Vincenzo Ciancia <email address hidden>wrote:

> Il giorno mer, 08/04/2009 alle 14.42 +0000, ddumont ha scritto:
> >
> >
> > It sure feels like a battle.  Do you simply not see the opposition
> > here, or
> > do you choose to ignore it?
> > Why isn't such a drastic change in policy configurable by the user?
> > You're writing software for users...   aren't you?
>
> Once again, it IS configurable by users. Just a change in gconf. It's in
> the comments above, search for "gconf".
>
>
> The "battle" here, at least for me, is that I want defaults to be
> elegant, coherent and unintrusive. This is because I want the high
> usability of gnome *by default* and don't want to get back to the age
> where every linux user had his own set of magic recipes to use for every
> new installed system. There was a looong fight in the beginning to
> change gnome like that, in the name of usability principles that where
> not understood by people! Now gnome has "a direction". This change goes
> in "the other direction" at least to my eyes.
>
> --
> [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332945
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>
> Status in Ubuntu Release Notes: New
> Status in “update-notifier” source package in Ubuntu: Confirmed
> Status in update-notifier in Ubuntu Jaunty: Won't Fix
>
> Bug description:
> I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome
> notification area.  The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed
> by:
>
>  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html
>
> Specific messages worth reading are:
>
>  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html
>  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html
>  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html
>  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html
>  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html
>
> Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is:
>
> *   When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show
>    them (plus any other available updates) within a day.
>
> *   When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and
>    show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last
>    opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates
>    were actually installed then).
>
> *   When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open
>    automatically at all.
>
> Desired by whom?  And where was discussion of this change that effects the
> entire Ubuntu community?  Because some percentage of users don't apparently
> understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use
> it for updates?  Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update
> notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program,
> perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than
> use the notification area.  And there are concerns about unintended
> functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the
> thread.
>
> Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people
> are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in
> them wanting to disable automatic checking.  Yes, that'll be highly
> desirable, won't it?
>
> In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon
> should be displayed when updates are available.
>
> To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour use:
>
> gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
>
> Take into account that this gconf change is not supported.
>