Comment 157 for bug 332945

It is not configurable by everyday users... That setting is not explicitly
supported. When it breaks, everyone who relies on it will be SOL.

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Vincenzo Ciancia <email address hidden>wrote:

> Il giorno mer, 08/04/2009 alle 14.42 +0000, ddumont ha scritto:
> >
> >
> > It sure feels like a battle. Do you simply not see the opposition
> > here, or
> > do you choose to ignore it?
> > Why isn't such a drastic change in policy configurable by the user?
> > You're writing software for users... aren't you?
>
> Once again, it IS configurable by users. Just a change in gconf. It's in
> the comments above, search for "gconf".
>
>
> The "battle" here, at least for me, is that I want defaults to be
> elegant, coherent and unintrusive. This is because I want the high
> usability of gnome *by default* and don't want to get back to the age
> where every linux user had his own set of magic recipes to use for every
> new installed system. There was a looong fight in the beginning to
> change gnome like that, in the name of usability principles that where
> not understood by people! Now gnome has "a direction". This change goes
> in "the other direction" at least to my eyes.
>
> --
> [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332945
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> Status in Ubuntu Release Notes: New
> Status in “update-notifier” source package in Ubuntu: Confirmed
> Status in update-notifier in Ubuntu Jaunty: Won't Fix
>
> Bug description:
> I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome
> notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed
> by:
>
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html
>
> Specific messages worth reading are:
>
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html
>
> Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is:
>
> * When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show
> them (plus any other available updates) within a day.
>
> * When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and
> show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last
> opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates
> were actually installed then).
>
> * When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open
> automatically at all.
>
> Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the
> entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently
> understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use
> it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update
> notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program,
> perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than
> use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended
> functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the
> thread.
>
> Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people
> are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in
> them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly
> desirable, won't it?
>
> In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon
> should be displayed when updates are available.
>
> To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour use:
>
> gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
>
> Take into account that this gconf change is not supported.
>