>Are you being intruded when your
>e-mail program notifies you in a persistent window that new mail is
>ready (and maybe even bring up the program window unfocused)?  Are you
>being intruded when your IM client pops up a window when someone new
>IM's you?

YES!

Now please allow for the user to revert this behaviour.
There is a reason that the feature for new IM messages to be restricted to
only flashing in the system tray is part of every major IM program...
I wish you would realise that.    Feel free to run like crazy with your
developer 'ideas' but when you do, provide a way for us users to turn the
insanity off when we don't like it.


On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Brian Curtis <email address hidden>wrote:

> @ mac_v:  It appears as if you're basing your judgement on the amount of
> clicks it takes to perform actions.  The amount of time it *really*
> takes to make 4 clicks (making the assumption that you have to move the
> mouse between each click), is no more than like 4 seconds.
>
> What makes these things "difficult", is that most of the time people
> aren't staring at their taskbar tray, and any icon that pops up goes
> unnoticed (most of the time).  Making this how MPT has it , is something
> to try out, and get used to.  I can't imagine you knew how to run ubuntu
> the first day you used it.  Take the time to get used to the changes,
> and adapt yourself to it, as Ubuntu thankfully makes this easy.
>
> In General: I really think that users should let the development teams
> run away with their ideas, because a ton of people really want to see
> changes to their OS that make it better (all in different ways), and the
> people that complain about 2 vs 4 clicks or how "intrusive" these things
> are, really need to step back a bit.  Are you being intruded when your
> e-mail program notifies you in a persistent window that new mail is
> ready (and maybe even bring up the program window unfocused)?  Are you
> being intruded when your IM client pops up a window when someone new
> IM's you?  I bet you don't think so.
>
> Adapt to the changes, as you would if you were trying out a different
> OS, or a new version of some software you use.  It's really not that
> difficult.
>
> --
> [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332945
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in Ubuntu Release Notes: New
> Status in “update-notifier” source package in Ubuntu: Confirmed
> Status in update-notifier in Ubuntu Jaunty: Won't Fix
>
> Bug description:
> I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome
> notification area.  The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed
> by:
>
>  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html
>
> Specific messages worth reading are:
>
>  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html
>  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html
>  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html
>  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html
>  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html
>
> Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is:
>
> *   When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show
>    them (plus any other available updates) within a day.
>
> *   When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and
>    show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last
>    opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates
>    were actually installed then).
>
> *   When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open
>    automatically at all.
>
> Desired by whom?  And where was discussion of this change that effects the
> entire Ubuntu community?  Because some percentage of users don't apparently
> understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use
> it for updates?  Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update
> notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program,
> perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than
> use the notification area.  And there are concerns about unintended
> functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the
> thread.
>
> Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people
> are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in
> them wanting to disable automatic checking.  Yes, that'll be highly
> desirable, won't it?
>
> In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon
> should be displayed when updates are available.
>
> To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour use:
>
> gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
>
> Take into account that this gconf change is not supported.
>