Rename Update Manager to Software Updater

Bug #618723 reported by Vish on 2010-08-16
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update-manager (Ubuntu)
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Bug Description

Binary package hint: update-manager

In <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdateHandling> mpt has proposed renaming "Update Manager" to "Software Updater" (on the grounds that it's more informative).
 <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdateHandling?highlight=Software%20Updater>

Renaming it so would get us a step closer to completing the Software Update Handling experience in Ubuntu

Vish (vish) on 2010-08-16
Changed in update-manager (Ubuntu):
importance: Undecided → Wishlist
Vish (vish) wrote :

Mohamed Amine IL Idrissi has a branch ready for review.

Changed in hundredpapercuts:
assignee: nobody → Mohamed Amine IL Idrissi (ilidrissi.amine)
importance: Undecided → Low
milestone: none → maverick-round-8-potpourri
status: New → In Progress
Changed in update-manager (Ubuntu):
status: New → In Progress
Lex (lexdave) wrote :

I would suggest 'Software Updates' or even just 'Updates' . Sounds better then 'Updater'. An updater is a thing (that does updates), where as updates is the end-goal / product that the users are after - so take out the middle man (the updater) and just point the users to the updates themselves.

@Lex:
As I see it, if we use a noun instead of a verb, the user could think that he will configure software updates, not install them,

Lex (lexdave) wrote :

A valid argument, however, when do users ever 'configure' updates? I've been using Ubuntu for a couple of years and I've never done anything to the updates except to install them. Does Ubuntu even have configuration option for the updates (other then install/ do not install)?

No, there is no option to "configure" updates. My point is that the 'Software Updates' terminology might induce the user into thinking that he will configure the updates, even though this isn't true.

Changed in update-manager (Ubuntu):
assignee: nobody → Mohamed Amine IL Idrissi (ilidrissi.amine)
Lex (lexdave) wrote :

I've never come across that view point before. I believe that naming it 'Software Updates' will bring us in line with the rest of the industry:
Windows = Windows Update
Apple = Software Update
Fedora = Software Update

Maybe we can settle on best 2 out of 3 and go with Software Update. My point is nobody else mentions the program (the software updater) just the end product - software update(s). You could even go minimalistic and just go with 'Updates'.

I agree with Lex.
Software updater, while it is perhaps the most technically correct, just sounds a bit odd to me, I think. I think that "Software Update" is the best, or perhaps "System Update".

Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) wrote :

I'm generally in favor of Lex's idea of hiding middle-men. (For example, today I recommended rewriting an aptdaemon error message to no longer mention aptdaemon.) Maybe one day Ubuntu software updates will be completely automatic, so we don't need to visibly refer to the updater as a thing at all -- we can just refer to it as "Ubuntu", e.g. "Ubuntu has installed updates that need the computer to restart.". But until then, the updater program can be launched from the "Applications" menu or place, so it needs a noun name. "Updates" is a noun, but "Software Updates has installed updates that need the computer to restart" is jarring.

As for the consistency argument, it's more important to be consistent with things that are nearby than with things that are far away. Ideally a design can be consistent with both, but that's not always possible. Nearby in Ubuntu, we have utilities with straightforward names like Partition Editor, Startup Disk Creator, Computer Janitor, Text Editor. So I'd rather stay grammatically consistent with those.

Sam L. (somethinginteres) wrote :

"System Updates" seems best to me. That is in line with the other items in the "System --> Administration" menu. For example, "System Monitor", "System Testing". That said, I would advocate using "Software Updater" for now if that's what has been specified in the SoftwareUpdateHandling specification.

Biswarup Ray (jumbli) wrote :

"Software Updater" is actually the short form of "Software Update Manager" or "Software Update Center". In "Update Manager" the word "update" is at the beginning, that makes it very easy to spot when one is glancing quickly through the menu. Also I feel the word "Updater" is a bit technical or raw compared to the word "Update Manager".

So, my request is, either name it as "Software Update Manager" or leave it as is ie. plain "Update Manager".

Biswarup Ray (jumbli) wrote :

After reading through the earlier comments I think "Software Updates" will be just right, since already we have a "Software Sources", the two items side-by-side will look neat . Since Ubuntu's update manager updates the whole stack ie. the base operating system and the top level applications(unlike Windows), "Software Updates" rather than "Software Update" will be the right word.

I find Mohamed Amine IL Idrissi's point very far-fetched. The option to "configure updates" is implied more in the name "Update Manager" rather than in "Software updates".

Btw, I hope there is plan for a hook of "Update Manager" in the "Software Center" just as there is a hook of "Software Sources" in the menu.

Vish (vish) on 2010-11-23
Changed in hundredpapercuts:
milestone: maverick-round-8-potpourri → nt7-potpourri
Changed in hundredpapercuts:
milestone: nt7-potpourri → precise-7-system-administration

This is an inconsistency problem in 12.04 beta: it is called "software updater" in the cog menu, but still "update manager" when opened. This should be fixed for this LTS.

Timothy Arceri (t-fridey) wrote :

12.10 finally renames "update manager" to "software updater"

Changed in hundredpapercuts:
assignee: Mohamed Amine Ilidrissi (ilidrissi.amine) → nobody
Changed in update-manager (Ubuntu):
assignee: Mohamed Amine Ilidrissi (ilidrissi.amine) → nobody
Changed in hundredpapercuts:
status: In Progress → Fix Released
Changed in update-manager (Ubuntu):
status: In Progress → Fix Released
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