Activity log for bug #34245

Date Who What changed Old value New value Message
2006-03-09 19:56:56 VincentRC bug added bug
2006-03-09 20:01:25 VincentRC description First of all, sorry for my poor english, I'am french. Ok, let's begin. 1- Breezy : I have personnalized locales on my computer in order not to have "invalid encoding" problems by following these steps : http://moosebox.over-blog.com/article-1304668.html (no problems, it works well) 2- Upgrading from Breezy to Dapper : I just follow the usual procedure : I install "ubuntu-base" and "ubuntu-desktop", reboot on "recovery mode" and tape "apt-get update" "apt-get dist-upgrade" (after have changed the repositories) 3- First problem with the upgrade process, after reboot... : My personnalized locales (fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8 fr_FR ISO-8859-1 and fr_FR@euro ISO-8859-15) are not working any more ("envalid encoding") and problems appear in gnome. 4- Which problem in gnome ? : No words (text) in many menues ("Applications", "Shortcuts" and "System"). 5- Is it really a bug ? What I have done ? : I have tried this process twice. Once from my Breezy system I was using since several months and the second time after a fresh install of Breezy. I have upgraded from a fresh install of Breezy WITHOUT changing locales config and there is NO problem like this. I have another problem, but it is not a bug. I don't know how to change locales on Dapper. It doesn't work the same. Maybe something in the documentation and on the website for the final release ? It would be a good idea. (By the way... There should have an easy way to change the system's locales as it is very problematic for people who speak french and I think spanish too and languages which use ISO-8859-1 (when you use several OS too) encodings and others different than UTF8. When I had not find the way to do it yet, I did not want to use Ubuntu again, just because of that, I don't think I am the only one... Because of that encoding problem, transfering files on an external media is often failing for example). I say that because I think that many beginners won't search to resolve this problem, they will just think that Linux doesn't work well and go back to Windows). First of all, sorry for my poor english, I'am french. Ok, let's begin. 1- Breezy : I have personnalized locales on my computer in order not to have "invalid encoding" problems by following these steps : http://moosebox.over-blog.com/article-1304668.html (no problems, it works well) 2- Upgrading from Breezy to Dapper : I just follow the usual procedure : I install "ubuntu-base" and "ubuntu-desktop", reboot on "recovery mode" and tape "apt-get update" "apt-get dist-upgrade" (after have changed the repositories) 3- First problem with the upgrade process, after reboot... : My personnalized locales (fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8 fr_FR ISO-8859-1 and fr_FR@euro ISO-8859-15) are not working any more ("envalid encoding") and problems appear in gnome. 4- Which problem in gnome ? : No words (text) in many menues ("Applications", "Shortcuts" and "System"). 5- Is it really a bug ? What I have done ? : I have tried this process twice. Once from my Breezy system I was using since several months and the second time after a fresh install of Breezy. I have upgraded from a fresh install of Breezy WITHOUT changing locales config and there is NO problem like this. I have another problem, but it is not a bug. I don't know how to change locales on Dapper. It doesn't work the same. Maybe something in the documentation and on the website for the final release ? It would be a good idea. (By the way... There should have an easy way to change the system's locales as it is very problematic for people who speak french and I think spanish too and languages which use ISO-8859-1 (when you use several OS too) encodings and others different than UTF8. When I had not find the way to do it yet, I did not want to use Ubuntu again, just because of that, I don't think I am the only one... Because of that encoding problem, transfering files on an external media is often failing for example). I say that because I think that many beginners won't search to resolve this problem, they will just think that Linux doesn't work well and go back to Windows). Thank you all for your great work ! Vince
2006-03-09 20:01:25 VincentRC title When you upgrade and had personnalized the locales (ISO-8859-1) on Breezy, problems appear. When you upgrade to Dapper and had personnalized the locales (ISO-8859-1) on Breezy, problems appear.
2006-03-09 20:03:43 VincentRC description First of all, sorry for my poor english, I'am french. Ok, let's begin. 1- Breezy : I have personnalized locales on my computer in order not to have "invalid encoding" problems by following these steps : http://moosebox.over-blog.com/article-1304668.html (no problems, it works well) 2- Upgrading from Breezy to Dapper : I just follow the usual procedure : I install "ubuntu-base" and "ubuntu-desktop", reboot on "recovery mode" and tape "apt-get update" "apt-get dist-upgrade" (after have changed the repositories) 3- First problem with the upgrade process, after reboot... : My personnalized locales (fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8 fr_FR ISO-8859-1 and fr_FR@euro ISO-8859-15) are not working any more ("envalid encoding") and problems appear in gnome. 4- Which problem in gnome ? : No words (text) in many menues ("Applications", "Shortcuts" and "System"). 5- Is it really a bug ? What I have done ? : I have tried this process twice. Once from my Breezy system I was using since several months and the second time after a fresh install of Breezy. I have upgraded from a fresh install of Breezy WITHOUT changing locales config and there is NO problem like this. I have another problem, but it is not a bug. I don't know how to change locales on Dapper. It doesn't work the same. Maybe something in the documentation and on the website for the final release ? It would be a good idea. (By the way... There should have an easy way to change the system's locales as it is very problematic for people who speak french and I think spanish too and languages which use ISO-8859-1 (when you use several OS too) encodings and others different than UTF8. When I had not find the way to do it yet, I did not want to use Ubuntu again, just because of that, I don't think I am the only one... Because of that encoding problem, transfering files on an external media is often failing for example). I say that because I think that many beginners won't search to resolve this problem, they will just think that Linux doesn't work well and go back to Windows). Thank you all for your great work ! Vince First of all, sorry for my poor english, I'am french. Ok, let's begin. 1- Breezy : I have personnalized locales on my computer in order not to have "invalid encoding" problems by following these steps : http://moosebox.over-blog.com/article-1304668.html (no problems, it works well) 2- Upgrading from Breezy to Dapper : I just follow the usual procedure : I install "ubuntu-base" and "ubuntu-desktop", reboot on "recovery mode" and tape "apt-get update" "apt-get dist-upgrade" (after have changed the repositories) 3- First problem with the upgrade process, after reboot... : My personnalized locales (fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8 fr_FR ISO-8859-1 and fr_FR@euro ISO-8859-15) are not working any more ("envalid encoding") and problems appear in gnome. 4- Which problem in gnome ? : No words (text) in the menues ("Applications", "Shortcuts" and "System") next to several icons. 5- Is it really a bug ? What I have done ? : I have tried this process twice. Once from my Breezy system I was using since several months and the second time after a fresh install of Breezy. I have upgraded from a fresh install of Breezy WITHOUT changing locales config and there is NO problem like this. I have another problem, but it is not a bug. I don't know how to change locales on Dapper. It doesn't work the same. Maybe something in the documentation and on the website for the final release ? It would be a good idea. (By the way... There should have an easy way to change the system's locales as it is very problematic for people who speak french and I think spanish too and languages which use ISO-8859-1 (when you use several OS too) encodings and others different than UTF8. When I had not find the way to do it yet, I did not want to use Ubuntu again, just because of that, I don't think I am the only one... Because of that encoding problem, transfering files on an external media is often failing for example). I say that because I think that many beginners won't search to resolve this problem, they will just think that Linux doesn't work well and go back to Windows). Thank you all for your great work ! Vince
2006-03-09 20:06:56 VincentRC description First of all, sorry for my poor english, I'am french. Ok, let's begin. 1- Breezy : I have personnalized locales on my computer in order not to have "invalid encoding" problems by following these steps : http://moosebox.over-blog.com/article-1304668.html (no problems, it works well) 2- Upgrading from Breezy to Dapper : I just follow the usual procedure : I install "ubuntu-base" and "ubuntu-desktop", reboot on "recovery mode" and tape "apt-get update" "apt-get dist-upgrade" (after have changed the repositories) 3- First problem with the upgrade process, after reboot... : My personnalized locales (fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8 fr_FR ISO-8859-1 and fr_FR@euro ISO-8859-15) are not working any more ("envalid encoding") and problems appear in gnome. 4- Which problem in gnome ? : No words (text) in the menues ("Applications", "Shortcuts" and "System") next to several icons. 5- Is it really a bug ? What I have done ? : I have tried this process twice. Once from my Breezy system I was using since several months and the second time after a fresh install of Breezy. I have upgraded from a fresh install of Breezy WITHOUT changing locales config and there is NO problem like this. I have another problem, but it is not a bug. I don't know how to change locales on Dapper. It doesn't work the same. Maybe something in the documentation and on the website for the final release ? It would be a good idea. (By the way... There should have an easy way to change the system's locales as it is very problematic for people who speak french and I think spanish too and languages which use ISO-8859-1 (when you use several OS too) encodings and others different than UTF8. When I had not find the way to do it yet, I did not want to use Ubuntu again, just because of that, I don't think I am the only one... Because of that encoding problem, transfering files on an external media is often failing for example). I say that because I think that many beginners won't search to resolve this problem, they will just think that Linux doesn't work well and go back to Windows). Thank you all for your great work ! Vince First of all, sorry for my poor english, I'am french. Ok, let's begin. 1- Breezy : I have personnalized locales on my computer in order not to have "invalid encoding" problems by following these steps : http://moosebox.over-blog.com/article-1304668.html (no problems, it works well) 2- Upgrading from Breezy to Dapper : I just follow the usual procedure : I install "ubuntu-base" and "ubuntu-desktop", reboot on "recovery mode" and tape "apt-get update" "apt-get dist-upgrade" (after have changed the repositories) 3- First problem with the upgrade process, after reboot... : My personnalized locales (fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8 fr_FR ISO-8859-1 and fr_FR@euro ISO-8859-15) are not working any more ("envalid encoding") and problems appear in gnome. 4- Which problem in gnome ? : No words (text) in the menues ("Applications", "Shortcuts" and "System") next to several icons. 5- Is it really a bug ? What I have done ? : I have tried this process twice (no... three times). Once from my Breezy system I was using since several months and the second time after a fresh install of Breezy. I have upgraded from a fresh install of Breezy WITHOUT changing locales config and there is NO problem like this. I have another problem, but it is not a bug. I don't know how to change locales on Dapper. It doesn't work the same. Maybe something in the documentation and on the website for the final release ? It would be a good idea. (By the way... There should have an easy way to change the system's locales as it is very problematic for people who speak french and I think spanish too and languages which use ISO-8859-1 (when you use several OS too) encodings and others different than UTF8. When I had not find the way to do it yet, I did not want to use Ubuntu again, just because of that, I don't think I am the only one... Because of that encoding problem, transfering files on an external media is often failing for example). I say that because I think that many beginners won't search to resolve this problem, they will just think that Linux doesn't work well and go back to Windows). Thank you all for your great work ! Vince
2006-03-09 20:12:02 VincentRC description First of all, sorry for my poor english, I'am french. Ok, let's begin. 1- Breezy : I have personnalized locales on my computer in order not to have "invalid encoding" problems by following these steps : http://moosebox.over-blog.com/article-1304668.html (no problems, it works well) 2- Upgrading from Breezy to Dapper : I just follow the usual procedure : I install "ubuntu-base" and "ubuntu-desktop", reboot on "recovery mode" and tape "apt-get update" "apt-get dist-upgrade" (after have changed the repositories) 3- First problem with the upgrade process, after reboot... : My personnalized locales (fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8 fr_FR ISO-8859-1 and fr_FR@euro ISO-8859-15) are not working any more ("envalid encoding") and problems appear in gnome. 4- Which problem in gnome ? : No words (text) in the menues ("Applications", "Shortcuts" and "System") next to several icons. 5- Is it really a bug ? What I have done ? : I have tried this process twice (no... three times). Once from my Breezy system I was using since several months and the second time after a fresh install of Breezy. I have upgraded from a fresh install of Breezy WITHOUT changing locales config and there is NO problem like this. I have another problem, but it is not a bug. I don't know how to change locales on Dapper. It doesn't work the same. Maybe something in the documentation and on the website for the final release ? It would be a good idea. (By the way... There should have an easy way to change the system's locales as it is very problematic for people who speak french and I think spanish too and languages which use ISO-8859-1 (when you use several OS too) encodings and others different than UTF8. When I had not find the way to do it yet, I did not want to use Ubuntu again, just because of that, I don't think I am the only one... Because of that encoding problem, transfering files on an external media is often failing for example). I say that because I think that many beginners won't search to resolve this problem, they will just think that Linux doesn't work well and go back to Windows). Thank you all for your great work ! Vince First of all, sorry for my poor english, I'am french. Ok, let's begin. 1- Breezy : I have personnalized locales on my computer in order not to have "invalid encoding" problems by following these steps : http://moosebox.over-blog.com/article-1304668.html (no problems, it works well) 2- Upgrading from Breezy to Dapper : I just follow the usual procedure : I install "ubuntu-base" and "ubuntu-desktop", reboot on "recovery mode" and tape "apt-get update" "apt-get dist-upgrade" (after have changed the repositories) 3- First problem with the upgrade process, after reboot... : My personnalized locales (fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8 fr_FR ISO-8859-1 and fr_FR@euro ISO-8859-15) are not working any more ("envalid encoding") and problems appear in gnome. 4- Which problem in gnome ? : No words (text) in the menues ("Applications", "Shortcuts" and "System") next to several icons. 5- Is it really a bug ? What I have done ? : I have tried this process twice (no... three times). Once from my Breezy system I was using since several months and twice after a fresh install of Breezy. I have upgraded from a fresh install of Breezy WITHOUT changing locales config and there is NO problem like this. I have another problem, but it is not a bug. I don't know how to change locales on Dapper. It doesn't work the same. Maybe something in the documentation and on the website for the final release ? It would be a good idea. (By the way... There should have an easy way to change the system's locales as it is very problematic for people who speak french and I think spanish too and languages which use ISO-8859-1 (when you use several OS too) encodings and others different than UTF8. When I had not find the way to do it yet, I did not want to use Ubuntu again, just because of that, I don't think I am the only one... Because of that encoding problem, transfering files on an external media is often failing for example). I say that because I think that many beginners won't search to resolve this problem, they will just think that Linux doesn't work well and go back to Windows). Thank you all for your great work ! Vince
2006-03-09 20:12:02 VincentRC summary 1- Install Breezy 2- Change locale settings to fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8 fr_FR ISO-8859-1 fr_FR@euro ISO-8859-15 3- Upgrade to Dapper 4- You can now see the problem
2006-05-26 17:56:51 Dennis Kaarsemaker upgrade-system: statusexplanation
2006-10-21 06:09:08 towsonu2003 None: status Unconfirmed Needs Info
2006-10-21 06:09:08 towsonu2003 None: statusexplanation is this an issue with dapper->edgy upgrade as well? in case you upgraded or are gonna upgrade -thanks
2007-06-10 05:13:53 Brian Murray update-manager: assignee brian-murray
2007-06-10 05:13:53 Brian Murray update-manager: statusexplanation is this an issue with dapper->edgy upgrade as well? in case you upgraded or are gonna upgrade -thanks Thanks for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. You reported this bug a while ago and there hasn't been any activity in it recently. We were wondering is this still an issue for you? Thanks in advance.
2007-07-16 16:04:24 Brian Murray update-manager: status Incomplete Invalid
2007-07-16 16:04:24 Brian Murray update-manager: statusexplanation Thanks for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. You reported this bug a while ago and there hasn't been any activity in it recently. We were wondering is this still an issue for you? Thanks in advance. We are closing this bug report as it lacks the information, described in the previous comments, we need to investigate the problem further. However, please reopen it if you can give us the missing information and feel free to submit bug reports in the future.