Activity log for bug #1955471

Date Who What changed Old value New value Message
2021-12-21 08:54:09 sudodus bug added bug
2021-12-21 09:14:36 Julian Andres Klode update-manager (Ubuntu): status New Invalid
2021-12-31 22:22:10 Frank Schoetzau bug added subscriber Frank Schoetzau
2022-01-14 14:22:39 Renan Rodrigo attachment added esmapps.patch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1955471/+attachment/5554351/+files/esmapps.patch
2022-01-14 15:28:14 Sebastien Bacher update-manager (Ubuntu): status Invalid New
2022-01-14 16:09:57 Sebastien Bacher update-manager (Ubuntu): importance Undecided High
2022-01-14 16:10:15 Sebastien Bacher tags amd64 apport-bug focal amd64 apport-bug focal rls-jj-incoming
2022-01-14 16:18:28 Ubuntu Foundations Team Bug Bot tags amd64 apport-bug focal rls-jj-incoming amd64 apport-bug focal patch rls-jj-incoming
2022-01-14 16:18:34 Ubuntu Foundations Team Bug Bot bug added subscriber Ubuntu Review Team
2022-01-14 18:00:30 Brian Murray summary Why is Extended Maintenance needed for apps in Ubuntu 20.04.x LTS in 2021? ubuntu-security-status shouldn't display information about ESM for Apps
2022-01-14 18:25:41 Brian Murray nominated for series Ubuntu Focal
2022-01-14 18:25:41 Brian Murray bug task added update-manager (Ubuntu Focal)
2022-01-14 18:25:50 Brian Murray update-manager (Ubuntu): status New In Progress
2022-01-14 18:25:55 Brian Murray update-manager (Ubuntu): assignee Brian Murray (brian-murray)
2022-01-14 18:26:01 Brian Murray update-manager (Ubuntu Focal): status New In Progress
2022-01-14 18:26:03 Brian Murray update-manager (Ubuntu Focal): importance Undecided High
2022-01-14 18:26:07 Brian Murray update-manager (Ubuntu Focal): assignee Brian Murray (brian-murray)
2022-01-14 19:46:12 Renan Rodrigo description There seems to be a misleading, incorrect message in ubuntu-security-status ESM wouldn’t be needed (or even enabled) until 20.04 is EOL, in 2025. --- See this link: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/why-is-extended-security-maintenance-needed-for-apps-in-ubuntu-20-04-x-lts-in-2021/25871 tester@lenovo-v130:~$ ubuntu-security-status 1832 packages installed, of which: 1673 receive package updates with LTS until 4/2025 152 could receive security updates with ESM Apps until 4/2030 7 packages are from third parties Packages from third parties are not provided by the official Ubuntu archive, for example packages from Personal Package Archives in Launchpad. For more information on the packages, run 'ubuntu-security-status --thirdparty'. Enable Extended Security Maintenance (ESM Apps) to get 10 security updates (so far) and enable coverage of 152 packages. This machine is not attached to an Ubuntu Advantage subscription. See https://ubuntu.com/advantage tester@lenovo-v130:~$ Questions Why is Extended Maintenance needed for apps in Ubuntu 20.04.x LTS in 2021? Which are those 10 security updates that need ESM? Is there a link where they are listed? Where are the 152 packages (that need ESM) listed? --- I was told to report this as a bug by oSoMoN: Why is Extended Maintenance needed for apps in Ubuntu 20.04.x LTS in 2021? Which are those 10 security updates that need ESM? Is there a link where they are listed? This sounds like a misleading, incorrect message. ESM wouldn’t be needed (or even enabled) until 20.04 is EOL, in 2025. Can you file a bug issuing the following command: ubuntu-bug update-manager-core ? ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 20.04 Package: update-manager-core 1:20.04.10.9 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.11.0-43.47~20.04.2-generic 5.11.22 Uname: Linux 5.11.0-43-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.21 Aptdaemon: Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: skip CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Tue Dec 21 09:43:33 2021 GsettingsChanges: b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'launch-count' b'12' b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'first-run' b'false' b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'launch-time' b'int64 1639852408' InstallationDate: Installed on 2020-09-04 (472 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS "Focal Fossa" - Release amd64 (20200731) PackageArchitecture: all SourcePackage: update-manager UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) [Impact] Users could have a message saying that packages are covered by ESM-Apps even in series which are not under LTS support yet. ESM-Apps will cover that, but it is still unreleased, which lead to confusion on why users are seeing messages about it. ESM-Apps is currently a beta service, and users which explicitly enabled it can use it. Ubuntu Advantage Tools only shows relevant information about ESM-Apps if it is enabled. Ubuntu-security-status should do the same. [Test Plan] Attached to the bug there is a test script showing the messages, and how they behave with the proposed patch. [Where problems could occur] There may be problems if there is the desire to show ESM-Apps related information before it comes out of beta. If people (products people?) change their minds and want to show those messages, there would be a need of a subsequent SRU. This is not a possibility being considered today. People with access to ESM-Apps can still see the message and be confused about it, but if they have access to it in beta it means they have the appropriate context. [Original Description] There seems to be a misleading, incorrect message in ubuntu-security-status ESM wouldn’t be needed (or even enabled) until 20.04 is EOL, in 2025. --- See this link: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/why-is-extended-security-maintenance-needed-for-apps-in-ubuntu-20-04-x-lts-in-2021/25871 tester@lenovo-v130:~$ ubuntu-security-status 1832 packages installed, of which: 1673 receive package updates with LTS until 4/2025 152 could receive security updates with ESM Apps until 4/2030 7 packages are from third parties Packages from third parties are not provided by the official Ubuntu archive, for example packages from Personal Package Archives in Launchpad. For more information on the packages, run 'ubuntu-security-status --thirdparty'. Enable Extended Security Maintenance (ESM Apps) to get 10 security updates (so far) and enable coverage of 152 packages. This machine is not attached to an Ubuntu Advantage subscription. See https://ubuntu.com/advantage tester@lenovo-v130:~$ Questions Why is Extended Maintenance needed for apps in Ubuntu 20.04.x LTS in 2021? Which are those 10 security updates that need ESM? Is there a link where they are listed? Where are the 152 packages (that need ESM) listed? --- I was told to report this as a bug by oSoMoN: Why is Extended Maintenance needed for apps in Ubuntu 20.04.x LTS in 2021? Which are those 10 security updates that need ESM? Is there a link where they are listed? This sounds like a misleading, incorrect message. ESM wouldn’t be needed (or even enabled) until 20.04 is EOL, in 2025. Can you file a bug issuing the following command: ubuntu-bug update-manager-core ? ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 20.04 Package: update-manager-core 1:20.04.10.9 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.11.0-43.47~20.04.2-generic 5.11.22 Uname: Linux 5.11.0-43-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.21 Aptdaemon: Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: skip CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Tue Dec 21 09:43:33 2021 GsettingsChanges: b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'launch-count' b'12' b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'first-run' b'false' b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'launch-time' b'int64 1639852408' InstallationDate: Installed on 2020-09-04 (472 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS "Focal Fossa" - Release amd64 (20200731) PackageArchitecture: all SourcePackage: update-manager UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
2022-01-14 19:47:21 Renan Rodrigo attachment added Script to test it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1955471/+attachment/5554383/+files/test-uss.sh
2022-01-14 19:49:56 Renan Rodrigo attachment added output.txt https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1955471/+attachment/5554384/+files/output.txt
2022-01-14 21:15:40 Launchpad Janitor branch linked lp:update-manager
2022-01-14 21:46:44 Launchpad Janitor update-manager (Ubuntu): status In Progress Fix Released
2022-01-18 13:22:13 Renan Rodrigo attachment added esmmessages.patch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1955471/+attachment/5555165/+files/esmmessages.patch
2022-01-18 13:24:15 Renan Rodrigo attachment added esm-apps-messages-test.tar.gz https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1955471/+attachment/5555167/+files/esm-apps-messages-test.tar.gz
2022-01-18 17:09:26 Brian Murray description [Impact] Users could have a message saying that packages are covered by ESM-Apps even in series which are not under LTS support yet. ESM-Apps will cover that, but it is still unreleased, which lead to confusion on why users are seeing messages about it. ESM-Apps is currently a beta service, and users which explicitly enabled it can use it. Ubuntu Advantage Tools only shows relevant information about ESM-Apps if it is enabled. Ubuntu-security-status should do the same. [Test Plan] Attached to the bug there is a test script showing the messages, and how they behave with the proposed patch. [Where problems could occur] There may be problems if there is the desire to show ESM-Apps related information before it comes out of beta. If people (products people?) change their minds and want to show those messages, there would be a need of a subsequent SRU. This is not a possibility being considered today. People with access to ESM-Apps can still see the message and be confused about it, but if they have access to it in beta it means they have the appropriate context. [Original Description] There seems to be a misleading, incorrect message in ubuntu-security-status ESM wouldn’t be needed (or even enabled) until 20.04 is EOL, in 2025. --- See this link: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/why-is-extended-security-maintenance-needed-for-apps-in-ubuntu-20-04-x-lts-in-2021/25871 tester@lenovo-v130:~$ ubuntu-security-status 1832 packages installed, of which: 1673 receive package updates with LTS until 4/2025 152 could receive security updates with ESM Apps until 4/2030 7 packages are from third parties Packages from third parties are not provided by the official Ubuntu archive, for example packages from Personal Package Archives in Launchpad. For more information on the packages, run 'ubuntu-security-status --thirdparty'. Enable Extended Security Maintenance (ESM Apps) to get 10 security updates (so far) and enable coverage of 152 packages. This machine is not attached to an Ubuntu Advantage subscription. See https://ubuntu.com/advantage tester@lenovo-v130:~$ Questions Why is Extended Maintenance needed for apps in Ubuntu 20.04.x LTS in 2021? Which are those 10 security updates that need ESM? Is there a link where they are listed? Where are the 152 packages (that need ESM) listed? --- I was told to report this as a bug by oSoMoN: Why is Extended Maintenance needed for apps in Ubuntu 20.04.x LTS in 2021? Which are those 10 security updates that need ESM? Is there a link where they are listed? This sounds like a misleading, incorrect message. ESM wouldn’t be needed (or even enabled) until 20.04 is EOL, in 2025. Can you file a bug issuing the following command: ubuntu-bug update-manager-core ? ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 20.04 Package: update-manager-core 1:20.04.10.9 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.11.0-43.47~20.04.2-generic 5.11.22 Uname: Linux 5.11.0-43-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.21 Aptdaemon: Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: skip CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Tue Dec 21 09:43:33 2021 GsettingsChanges: b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'launch-count' b'12' b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'first-run' b'false' b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'launch-time' b'int64 1639852408' InstallationDate: Installed on 2020-09-04 (472 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS "Focal Fossa" - Release amd64 (20200731) PackageArchitecture: all SourcePackage: update-manager UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) [Impact] Users could have a message saying that packages are covered by ESM-Apps even in series which are not under LTS support yet. ESM-Apps will cover that, but it is still unreleased, which lead to confusion on why users are seeing messages about it. ESM-Apps is currently a beta service, and users which explicitly enabled it can use it. Ubuntu Advantage Tools only shows relevant information about ESM-Apps if it is enabled. Ubuntu-security-status should do the same. [Test Plan] Attached to the bug there is a test script showing the messages, and how they behave with the proposed patch. [Where problems could occur] There may be problems if there is the desire to show ESM-Apps related information before it comes out of beta. If people (products people?) change their minds and want to show those messages, there would be a need of a subsequent SRU. This is not a possibility being considered today. People with access to ESM-Apps can still see the message and be confused about it, but if they have access to it in beta it means they have the appropriate context. [Additional Information] ubuntu-security-status is useful on its own (i.e. for Impish) but the changes we are making here are its integration with ubuntu-advantage and ESM which is not relevant for Impish so this change is not being SRU'ed there. [Original Description] There seems to be a misleading, incorrect message in ubuntu-security-status ESM wouldn’t be needed (or even enabled) until 20.04 is EOL, in 2025. --- See this link: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/why-is-extended-security-maintenance-needed-for-apps-in-ubuntu-20-04-x-lts-in-2021/25871 tester@lenovo-v130:~$ ubuntu-security-status 1832 packages installed, of which: 1673 receive package updates with LTS until 4/2025  152 could receive security updates with ESM Apps until 4/2030    7 packages are from third parties Packages from third parties are not provided by the official Ubuntu archive, for example packages from Personal Package Archives in Launchpad. For more information on the packages, run 'ubuntu-security-status --thirdparty'. Enable Extended Security Maintenance (ESM Apps) to get 10 security updates (so far) and enable coverage of 152 packages. This machine is not attached to an Ubuntu Advantage subscription. See https://ubuntu.com/advantage tester@lenovo-v130:~$ Questions     Why is Extended Maintenance needed for apps in Ubuntu 20.04.x LTS in 2021?     Which are those 10 security updates that need ESM? Is there a link where they are listed?     Where are the 152 packages (that need ESM) listed? --- I was told to report this as a bug by oSoMoN:         Why is Extended Maintenance needed for apps in Ubuntu 20.04.x LTS in 2021?         Which are those 10 security updates that need ESM? Is there a link where they are listed? This sounds like a misleading, incorrect message. ESM wouldn’t be needed (or even enabled) until 20.04 is EOL, in 2025. Can you file a bug issuing the following command: ubuntu-bug update-manager-core ? ProblemType: BugDistroRelease: Ubuntu 20.04 Package: update-manager-core 1:20.04.10.9 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.11.0-43.47~20.04.2-generic 5.11.22 Uname: Linux 5.11.0-43-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.21 Aptdaemon: Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: skip CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Tue Dec 21 09:43:33 2021 GsettingsChanges:  b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'launch-count' b'12'  b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'first-run' b'false'  b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'launch-time' b'int64 1639852408' InstallationDate: Installed on 2020-09-04 (472 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS "Focal Fossa" - Release amd64 (20200731) PackageArchitecture: allSourcePackage: update-manager UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
2022-01-18 17:09:33 Brian Murray removed subscriber Ubuntu Review Team
2022-01-21 15:02:27 Timo Aaltonen update-manager (Ubuntu Focal): status In Progress Fix Committed
2022-01-21 15:02:29 Timo Aaltonen bug added subscriber Ubuntu Stable Release Updates Team
2022-01-21 15:02:31 Timo Aaltonen bug added subscriber SRU Verification
2022-01-21 15:02:34 Timo Aaltonen tags amd64 apport-bug focal patch rls-jj-incoming amd64 apport-bug focal patch rls-jj-incoming verification-needed verification-needed-focal
2022-01-25 11:36:36 Renan Rodrigo attachment added esm-apps-test-proposed.tar.gz https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1955471/+attachment/5557319/+files/esm-apps-test-proposed.tar.gz
2022-01-25 11:37:08 Renan Rodrigo tags amd64 apport-bug focal patch rls-jj-incoming verification-needed verification-needed-focal amd64 apport-bug focal patch rls-jj-incoming verification-done verification-done-focal
2022-02-02 01:32:52 Chris Halse Rogers removed subscriber Ubuntu Stable Release Updates Team
2022-02-02 01:45:00 Launchpad Janitor update-manager (Ubuntu Focal): status Fix Committed Fix Released