2021-12-21 08:54:09 |
sudodus |
bug |
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added bug |
2021-12-21 09:14:36 |
Julian Andres Klode |
update-manager (Ubuntu): status |
New |
Invalid |
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2021-12-31 22:22:10 |
Frank Schoetzau |
bug |
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added subscriber Frank Schoetzau |
2022-01-14 14:22:39 |
Renan Rodrigo |
attachment added |
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esmapps.patch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1955471/+attachment/5554351/+files/esmapps.patch |
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2022-01-14 15:28:14 |
Sebastien Bacher |
update-manager (Ubuntu): status |
Invalid |
New |
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2022-01-14 16:09:57 |
Sebastien Bacher |
update-manager (Ubuntu): importance |
Undecided |
High |
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2022-01-14 16:10:15 |
Sebastien Bacher |
tags |
amd64 apport-bug focal |
amd64 apport-bug focal rls-jj-incoming |
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2022-01-14 16:18:28 |
Ubuntu Foundations Team Bug Bot |
tags |
amd64 apport-bug focal rls-jj-incoming |
amd64 apport-bug focal patch rls-jj-incoming |
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2022-01-14 16:18:34 |
Ubuntu Foundations Team Bug Bot |
bug |
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added subscriber Ubuntu Review Team |
2022-01-14 18:00:30 |
Brian Murray |
summary |
Why is Extended Maintenance needed for apps in Ubuntu 20.04.x LTS in 2021? |
ubuntu-security-status shouldn't display information about ESM for Apps |
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2022-01-14 18:25:41 |
Brian Murray |
nominated for series |
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Ubuntu Focal |
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2022-01-14 18:25:41 |
Brian Murray |
bug task added |
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update-manager (Ubuntu Focal) |
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2022-01-14 18:25:50 |
Brian Murray |
update-manager (Ubuntu): status |
New |
In Progress |
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2022-01-14 18:25:55 |
Brian Murray |
update-manager (Ubuntu): assignee |
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Brian Murray (brian-murray) |
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2022-01-14 18:26:01 |
Brian Murray |
update-manager (Ubuntu Focal): status |
New |
In Progress |
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2022-01-14 18:26:03 |
Brian Murray |
update-manager (Ubuntu Focal): importance |
Undecided |
High |
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2022-01-14 18:26:07 |
Brian Murray |
update-manager (Ubuntu Focal): assignee |
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Brian Murray (brian-murray) |
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2022-01-14 19:46:12 |
Renan Rodrigo |
description |
There seems to be a misleading, incorrect message in
ubuntu-security-status
ESM wouldn’t be needed (or even enabled) until 20.04 is EOL, in 2025.
---
See this link:
https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/why-is-extended-security-maintenance-needed-for-apps-in-ubuntu-20-04-x-lts-in-2021/25871
tester@lenovo-v130:~$ ubuntu-security-status
1832 packages installed, of which:
1673 receive package updates with LTS until 4/2025
152 could receive security updates with ESM Apps until 4/2030
7 packages are from third parties
Packages from third parties are not provided by the official Ubuntu
archive, for example packages from Personal Package Archives in
Launchpad.
For more information on the packages, run 'ubuntu-security-status
--thirdparty'.
Enable Extended Security Maintenance (ESM Apps) to get 10 security
updates (so far) and enable coverage of 152 packages.
This machine is not attached to an Ubuntu Advantage subscription.
See https://ubuntu.com/advantage
tester@lenovo-v130:~$
Questions
Why is Extended Maintenance needed for apps in Ubuntu 20.04.x LTS in 2021?
Which are those 10 security updates that need ESM? Is there a link where they are listed?
Where are the 152 packages (that need ESM) listed?
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I was told to report this as a bug by oSoMoN:
Why is Extended Maintenance needed for apps in Ubuntu 20.04.x LTS in 2021?
Which are those 10 security updates that need ESM? Is there a link where they are listed?
This sounds like a misleading, incorrect message. ESM wouldn’t be needed (or even enabled) until 20.04 is EOL, in 2025. Can you file a bug issuing the following command: ubuntu-bug update-manager-core ?
ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 20.04
Package: update-manager-core 1:20.04.10.9
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.11.0-43.47~20.04.2-generic 5.11.22
Uname: Linux 5.11.0-43-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.21
Aptdaemon:
Architecture: amd64
CasperMD5CheckResult: skip
CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME
Date: Tue Dec 21 09:43:33 2021
GsettingsChanges:
b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'launch-count' b'12'
b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'first-run' b'false'
b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'launch-time' b'int64 1639852408'
InstallationDate: Installed on 2020-09-04 (472 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS "Focal Fossa" - Release amd64 (20200731)
PackageArchitecture: all
SourcePackage: update-manager
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) |
[Impact]
Users could have a message saying that packages are covered by ESM-Apps even in series which are not under LTS support yet. ESM-Apps will cover that, but it is still unreleased, which lead to confusion on why users are seeing messages about it.
ESM-Apps is currently a beta service, and users which explicitly enabled it can use it. Ubuntu Advantage Tools only shows relevant information about ESM-Apps if it is enabled. Ubuntu-security-status should do the same.
[Test Plan]
Attached to the bug there is a test script showing the messages, and how they behave with the proposed patch.
[Where problems could occur]
There may be problems if there is the desire to show ESM-Apps related information before it comes out of beta. If people (products people?) change their minds and want to show those messages, there would be a need of a subsequent SRU. This is not a possibility being considered today.
People with access to ESM-Apps can still see the message and be confused about it, but if they have access to it in beta it means they have the appropriate context.
[Original Description]
There seems to be a misleading, incorrect message in
ubuntu-security-status
ESM wouldn’t be needed (or even enabled) until 20.04 is EOL, in 2025.
---
See this link:
https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/why-is-extended-security-maintenance-needed-for-apps-in-ubuntu-20-04-x-lts-in-2021/25871
tester@lenovo-v130:~$ ubuntu-security-status
1832 packages installed, of which:
1673 receive package updates with LTS until 4/2025
152 could receive security updates with ESM Apps until 4/2030
7 packages are from third parties
Packages from third parties are not provided by the official Ubuntu
archive, for example packages from Personal Package Archives in
Launchpad.
For more information on the packages, run 'ubuntu-security-status
--thirdparty'.
Enable Extended Security Maintenance (ESM Apps) to get 10 security
updates (so far) and enable coverage of 152 packages.
This machine is not attached to an Ubuntu Advantage subscription.
See https://ubuntu.com/advantage
tester@lenovo-v130:~$
Questions
Why is Extended Maintenance needed for apps in Ubuntu 20.04.x LTS in 2021?
Which are those 10 security updates that need ESM? Is there a link where they are listed?
Where are the 152 packages (that need ESM) listed?
---
I was told to report this as a bug by oSoMoN:
Why is Extended Maintenance needed for apps in Ubuntu 20.04.x LTS in 2021?
Which are those 10 security updates that need ESM? Is there a link where they are listed?
This sounds like a misleading, incorrect message. ESM wouldn’t be needed (or even enabled) until 20.04 is EOL, in 2025. Can you file a bug issuing the following command: ubuntu-bug update-manager-core ?
ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 20.04
Package: update-manager-core 1:20.04.10.9
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.11.0-43.47~20.04.2-generic 5.11.22
Uname: Linux 5.11.0-43-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.21
Aptdaemon:
Architecture: amd64
CasperMD5CheckResult: skip
CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME
Date: Tue Dec 21 09:43:33 2021
GsettingsChanges:
b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'launch-count' b'12'
b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'first-run' b'false'
b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'launch-time' b'int64 1639852408'
InstallationDate: Installed on 2020-09-04 (472 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS "Focal Fossa" - Release amd64 (20200731)
PackageArchitecture: all
SourcePackage: update-manager
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) |
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2022-01-14 19:47:21 |
Renan Rodrigo |
attachment added |
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Script to test it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1955471/+attachment/5554383/+files/test-uss.sh |
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2022-01-14 19:49:56 |
Renan Rodrigo |
attachment added |
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output.txt https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1955471/+attachment/5554384/+files/output.txt |
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2022-01-14 21:15:40 |
Launchpad Janitor |
branch linked |
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lp:update-manager |
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2022-01-14 21:46:44 |
Launchpad Janitor |
update-manager (Ubuntu): status |
In Progress |
Fix Released |
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2022-01-18 13:22:13 |
Renan Rodrigo |
attachment added |
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esmmessages.patch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1955471/+attachment/5555165/+files/esmmessages.patch |
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2022-01-18 13:24:15 |
Renan Rodrigo |
attachment added |
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esm-apps-messages-test.tar.gz https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1955471/+attachment/5555167/+files/esm-apps-messages-test.tar.gz |
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2022-01-18 17:09:26 |
Brian Murray |
description |
[Impact]
Users could have a message saying that packages are covered by ESM-Apps even in series which are not under LTS support yet. ESM-Apps will cover that, but it is still unreleased, which lead to confusion on why users are seeing messages about it.
ESM-Apps is currently a beta service, and users which explicitly enabled it can use it. Ubuntu Advantage Tools only shows relevant information about ESM-Apps if it is enabled. Ubuntu-security-status should do the same.
[Test Plan]
Attached to the bug there is a test script showing the messages, and how they behave with the proposed patch.
[Where problems could occur]
There may be problems if there is the desire to show ESM-Apps related information before it comes out of beta. If people (products people?) change their minds and want to show those messages, there would be a need of a subsequent SRU. This is not a possibility being considered today.
People with access to ESM-Apps can still see the message and be confused about it, but if they have access to it in beta it means they have the appropriate context.
[Original Description]
There seems to be a misleading, incorrect message in
ubuntu-security-status
ESM wouldn’t be needed (or even enabled) until 20.04 is EOL, in 2025.
---
See this link:
https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/why-is-extended-security-maintenance-needed-for-apps-in-ubuntu-20-04-x-lts-in-2021/25871
tester@lenovo-v130:~$ ubuntu-security-status
1832 packages installed, of which:
1673 receive package updates with LTS until 4/2025
152 could receive security updates with ESM Apps until 4/2030
7 packages are from third parties
Packages from third parties are not provided by the official Ubuntu
archive, for example packages from Personal Package Archives in
Launchpad.
For more information on the packages, run 'ubuntu-security-status
--thirdparty'.
Enable Extended Security Maintenance (ESM Apps) to get 10 security
updates (so far) and enable coverage of 152 packages.
This machine is not attached to an Ubuntu Advantage subscription.
See https://ubuntu.com/advantage
tester@lenovo-v130:~$
Questions
Why is Extended Maintenance needed for apps in Ubuntu 20.04.x LTS in 2021?
Which are those 10 security updates that need ESM? Is there a link where they are listed?
Where are the 152 packages (that need ESM) listed?
---
I was told to report this as a bug by oSoMoN:
Why is Extended Maintenance needed for apps in Ubuntu 20.04.x LTS in 2021?
Which are those 10 security updates that need ESM? Is there a link where they are listed?
This sounds like a misleading, incorrect message. ESM wouldn’t be needed (or even enabled) until 20.04 is EOL, in 2025. Can you file a bug issuing the following command: ubuntu-bug update-manager-core ?
ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 20.04
Package: update-manager-core 1:20.04.10.9
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.11.0-43.47~20.04.2-generic 5.11.22
Uname: Linux 5.11.0-43-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.21
Aptdaemon:
Architecture: amd64
CasperMD5CheckResult: skip
CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME
Date: Tue Dec 21 09:43:33 2021
GsettingsChanges:
b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'launch-count' b'12'
b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'first-run' b'false'
b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'launch-time' b'int64 1639852408'
InstallationDate: Installed on 2020-09-04 (472 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS "Focal Fossa" - Release amd64 (20200731)
PackageArchitecture: all
SourcePackage: update-manager
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) |
[Impact]
Users could have a message saying that packages are covered by ESM-Apps even in series which are not under LTS support yet. ESM-Apps will cover that, but it is still unreleased, which lead to confusion on why users are seeing messages about it.
ESM-Apps is currently a beta service, and users which explicitly enabled it can use it. Ubuntu Advantage Tools only shows relevant information about ESM-Apps if it is enabled. Ubuntu-security-status should do the same.
[Test Plan]
Attached to the bug there is a test script showing the messages, and how they behave with the proposed patch.
[Where problems could occur]
There may be problems if there is the desire to show ESM-Apps related information before it comes out of beta. If people (products people?) change their minds and want to show those messages, there would be a need of a subsequent SRU. This is not a possibility being considered today.
People with access to ESM-Apps can still see the message and be confused about it, but if they have access to it in beta it means they have the appropriate context.
[Additional Information]
ubuntu-security-status is useful on its own (i.e. for Impish) but the changes we are making here are its integration with ubuntu-advantage and ESM which is not relevant for Impish so this change is not being SRU'ed there.
[Original Description]
There seems to be a misleading, incorrect message in
ubuntu-security-status
ESM wouldn’t be needed (or even enabled) until 20.04 is EOL, in 2025.
---
See this link:
https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/why-is-extended-security-maintenance-needed-for-apps-in-ubuntu-20-04-x-lts-in-2021/25871
tester@lenovo-v130:~$ ubuntu-security-status
1832 packages installed, of which:
1673 receive package updates with LTS until 4/2025
152 could receive security updates with ESM Apps until 4/2030
7 packages are from third parties
Packages from third parties are not provided by the official Ubuntu
archive, for example packages from Personal Package Archives in
Launchpad.
For more information on the packages, run 'ubuntu-security-status
--thirdparty'.
Enable Extended Security Maintenance (ESM Apps) to get 10 security
updates (so far) and enable coverage of 152 packages.
This machine is not attached to an Ubuntu Advantage subscription.
See https://ubuntu.com/advantage
tester@lenovo-v130:~$
Questions
Why is Extended Maintenance needed for apps in Ubuntu 20.04.x LTS in 2021?
Which are those 10 security updates that need ESM? Is there a link where they are listed?
Where are the 152 packages (that need ESM) listed?
---
I was told to report this as a bug by oSoMoN:
Why is Extended Maintenance needed for apps in Ubuntu 20.04.x LTS in 2021?
Which are those 10 security updates that need ESM? Is there a link where they are listed?
This sounds like a misleading, incorrect message. ESM wouldn’t be needed (or even enabled) until 20.04 is EOL, in 2025. Can you file a bug issuing the following command: ubuntu-bug update-manager-core ?
ProblemType: BugDistroRelease: Ubuntu 20.04
Package: update-manager-core 1:20.04.10.9
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.11.0-43.47~20.04.2-generic 5.11.22
Uname: Linux 5.11.0-43-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.21
Aptdaemon:
Architecture: amd64
CasperMD5CheckResult: skip
CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME
Date: Tue Dec 21 09:43:33 2021
GsettingsChanges:
b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'launch-count' b'12'
b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'first-run' b'false'
b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'launch-time' b'int64 1639852408'
InstallationDate: Installed on 2020-09-04 (472 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS "Focal Fossa" - Release amd64 (20200731)
PackageArchitecture: allSourcePackage: update-manager
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) |
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2022-01-18 17:09:33 |
Brian Murray |
removed subscriber Ubuntu Review Team |
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2022-01-21 15:02:27 |
Timo Aaltonen |
update-manager (Ubuntu Focal): status |
In Progress |
Fix Committed |
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2022-01-21 15:02:29 |
Timo Aaltonen |
bug |
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added subscriber Ubuntu Stable Release Updates Team |
2022-01-21 15:02:31 |
Timo Aaltonen |
bug |
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added subscriber SRU Verification |
2022-01-21 15:02:34 |
Timo Aaltonen |
tags |
amd64 apport-bug focal patch rls-jj-incoming |
amd64 apport-bug focal patch rls-jj-incoming verification-needed verification-needed-focal |
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2022-01-25 11:36:36 |
Renan Rodrigo |
attachment added |
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esm-apps-test-proposed.tar.gz https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1955471/+attachment/5557319/+files/esm-apps-test-proposed.tar.gz |
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2022-01-25 11:37:08 |
Renan Rodrigo |
tags |
amd64 apport-bug focal patch rls-jj-incoming verification-needed verification-needed-focal |
amd64 apport-bug focal patch rls-jj-incoming verification-done verification-done-focal |
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2022-02-02 01:32:52 |
Chris Halse Rogers |
removed subscriber Ubuntu Stable Release Updates Team |
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2022-02-02 01:45:00 |
Launchpad Janitor |
update-manager (Ubuntu Focal): status |
Fix Committed |
Fix Released |
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