I finely found that what I needed to do was to uninstall the program or portion of the program that was fowling things up. It has been so long now that I do not know what I really did. But now my up dates are working and alls wright with the world. Thank you for responding. Shall be using this version untill it runs out. Dan Purdy On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 8:53 PM, Christopher M. Penalver <