Synaptic and terminal showing upgradable packages but nothing in software updater

[philinux]

As the title says. Screenshots below.

First tow show what terminal and updater show.

Last one is after updating with update-manager that shows there are updates available but update-manager says system up to date.

Had to use imagebin for these.

http://imagebin.org/274296 http://imagebin.org/274295

After updating with update-manager terminal shows this.

http://imagebin.org/274297

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 13.10
Package: update-manager 1:0.194
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.11.0-12.19-generic 3.11.3
Uname: Linux 3.11.0-12-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.12.5-0ubuntu2
Architecture: amd64
Date: Mon Oct 21 16:08:32 2013
GsettingsChanges:
 b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'first-run' b'false'
 b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'launch-time' b'1382367219'
 b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'show-details' b'true'
 b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'window-height' b'669'
 b'com.ubuntu.update-manager' b'window-width' b'929'
InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-09-18 (398 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Alpha amd64 (20120918.1)
MarkForUpload: True
PackageArchitecture: all
SourcePackage: update-manager
UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to saucy on 2013-07-02 (111 days ago)

[Launchpad Janitor (janitor)]

Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

[Brian Murray (brian-murray)]

This is deliberate as these packages are undergoing a phased update and update-manager has chosen not to install them for you, while apt and synaptic will. You can learn a bit more about the phasing of stable release updates at http://www.murraytwins.com/blog/?p=127. Things are behaving as they are intended though.

[philinux (philcb)]

Brian,

Thanks for the explanation in the link. I had known about phased updates but exactly sure of the precise mechanism.

Although the bug is marked correctly as wont fix would it not be helpful for update-manager to display a short message regarding this? As opposed to just saying "system up to date".

[Brian Murray (brian-murray)]

I think this would cause more confusion for the majority of people who only use update manager to install updates.