Week day and Date & Month not working on menu bar on upgrade to 14.10

Bug #1449794 reported by Rodney
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Bug Description

I recently upgraded from 12.04 to 14.10 (had to first upgrade to a prior 14.?? version first), and then later on to 15.04 (see below). On the far right-side of the top bar of the graphical screen, I previously had displayed the date & time, weekday, and date/month (without clicking on it and it displaying the full calendar). With the upgrade most of that is now gone and I can only see the time on the menu bar. If I go into System Settings --> Time & Date -- Clock, I see that in the "In the clock, show:" grouping of properties "Weekday" and "Date and month" are unchecked. Towards the top the "Show a clock in the menu bar" is checked, and I also have "12-hour time" checked.

I want the "Weekday" and "Date and month" checked so that they will show on the menu bar, but when I check either or both of them, the clock goes away right then -- that is, it doesn't show the time that it was showing just moments ago, nor does it display anything about the date or time. As soon as I uncheck both "Weekday" and "Date and month" the time will show right back up, with no delay.

I have updated/upgraded/reinstalled indicator-datetime, removed it and installed it again, "dpkg-reconfigure" the package, each time doing a "killall unity-panel-service" to restart the service, and even rebooted some times.

Nothing seems to help -- If one of those 2 settings (or both) are checked all date/time settings go away on the menu bar.

The above is for my regular login account. I created a "Guest Session", of which it creates a temporary login in /tmp, and saw that it deleted it when I logged out of it. It did the same as my normal log ID did -- that is, only the time showed up on the menu bar, and when I went to clock settings and changed the "Weekday" / "Date & Month" settings, the clock disappeared.

I did a fresh install of ubuntu 14.10 on another machine after I did this upgrade. The fresh install was on a Win computer that I resized the Win partition on. It does the same thing as the upgrade I talked about above.

I first posed the above as a question, and no one was able to help me, and they said I probably should report a bug, but I might want to wait until 15.04 was released and I upgraded. I have now upgraded to 15.04 on both of my computers, and they still do the same thing.

I have encountered another problem with the "Time & Date Settings". I have my location set up as "Chicago". I noticed that when you go into the "Clock" tab, you can set up additional "Locations". I set up an additional location for "UTC". Both of these times display when you click on the clock on the top menu bar and it pops up the Calendar. They display at the bottom. It works fine for most of the time. "UTC" is (now) 5 hours ahead of "Chicago" time. When "Chicago" time reads 18:59 UTC reads 23.59. "Chicago" clicks over to 19:00 and "UTC" clicks over to the next day, the "UTC" time then disappears. I take it that it disappears until "Chicago" time clicks over to the next day, so that "Chicago" and "UTC" are then on the same day again.

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Rodney (hp35) wrote :

I just wanted to add this -- I verified on the 2nd problem I wrote about -- where the UTC time goes away when it clicks past 23:59. The speculation I had was that it re-appeared once the "Chicago" time struck past midnight, and thus "Chicago" and "UTC" were back on the same day. That is indeed what it does. So, it seems to be a DAY issue, that is, "UTC" time does not display when its DAY is not the same as the DAY of the selected time zone.

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Rodney (hp35) wrote :
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Stephen Rasku (ubuntu-srasku) wrote :

@Rodney, if you think bug #1467961 is also affecting you can you click on the "affects me" link. I am still trying to understand if this is the same bug.

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Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

Thank you for your bug report. Is that still an issue? What locale do you use?

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importance: Undecided → Low
status: New → Incomplete
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status: New → Incomplete
importance: Undecided → Low
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Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote :

could you also make a screenshot showing the issue?

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Rodney (hp35) wrote :

For the first question:

Ahh. The locale setting does make a difference. I normally have /etc/default/locale set as:

LANG="C"

If I set it to:

LANG="en_US.utf8"

it solves this problem, but .... I set it to "C" on purpose, as I don't care for the sort sequences (for instance of an "ls -l" command) if it is set to "en_US.utf8" -- it intersperses lowercase & uppercase and "/." files according to the first alphabetical character in the file name w/o regard to the case. The collating sequence of "C" seems more sensible to me.

For the 2nd question:

No, I cannot do a screenshot. I tried the application "Screenshot", but the very first line in the screenshot (of the graphical screen), where the title bar is, it does not show the information that is on the right side of that line, like: 1) The up/down arrows to get to the networks, the language setting, the speaker volume, the date/time/etc, the settings icon. And, it is the date/time displayed right there that I am talking about.

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Rodney (hp35) wrote :

Am I supposed to do something else, besides the post that I made on 09/25/2015? I think I answered all outstanding questions, but the status of this bug report still shows "Incomplete", and I don't see any "button" that I can punch to switch it back to "Needs further moderator action". I don't want the bug to disappear, as it shows at the top of this page that it might. If I need to do something additional to prevent that, please let me know.

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Stephen Rasku (ubuntu-srasku) wrote :

Rodney, try changing the status back to New by clicking the pencil next to the status.

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Rodney (hp35) wrote :

I was able to solve all problems by changing the content of /etc/default/locale from what I had it: "C", to: "C.UTF-8". This solved these problems:

1) The original problem of the clock not working when I wanted to display the day-of-the-week and year on the top line menu bar (in "System Settings", then "Time & Date" -- see above);

2) When I would change the locale to: "en_US.utf8", it would let the clock work OK, but would also change the sort collating sequence (for instance, in the "ls -l" command) to what I wasn't accustomed to.

All I did was change the locale to: "C.UTF-8", and rebooted. That solves the clock problem, and keeps the sort collating sequence that I want.

Though, it appears to me there is still a problem in Ubuntu ... as what I was originally using as a locale: "C" -- it shows up as a valid locale when I do a "locale -a" command.

So, I'm OK with how it works now, but I'm going to leave this report OPEN in hopes that someone on the bug-tracking team will read this.

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Rodney (hp35) wrote :

P.S. This also solved the 2nd problem I noted above, that in the calendar display, when you chose to display a 2nd "time in other locations" (System Settings --> Time & Date --> Clock) that that 2nd date would not display when its DATE was not the same as the DATE in the selected time zone (a few hours per day). It does display with the change I made to the /etc/default/locale file.

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Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :

Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

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status: New → Confirmed
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BJC2014 (bjclaasen) wrote :

Although it is for ubuntu 14.04 I now have ubuntu 16.04 kylin, and it also has this bug. I did not had it before. Kylin also has some Chinese apps, but you can remove them from the app center.

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