Activity log for bug #1228422

Date Who What changed Old value New value Message
2013-09-20 22:33:35 Simos Xenitellis  bug added bug
2013-09-20 22:44:58 Launchpad Janitor unity (Ubuntu): status New Confirmed
2013-09-21 04:41:21 N1ck 7h0m4d4k15 bug added subscriber Nik.Th.
2013-09-21 09:23:09 Filippos Kolyvas bug added subscriber Filippos Kolyvas
2013-09-21 11:19:25 Nobuto Murata bug added subscriber Nobuto MURATA
2013-09-21 16:30:45 Elias Psallidas bug added subscriber Elias Ps
2013-09-21 16:40:21 George Christofis bug added subscriber George Christofis
2013-09-21 16:57:00 George Christofis bug added subscriber Brandon Schaefer
2013-09-21 17:16:49 George Christofis affects unity (Ubuntu) ubuntu
2013-09-21 17:17:08 George Christofis affects ubuntu unity (Ubuntu)
2013-09-21 18:31:14 George Macris bug task added unity
2013-09-21 18:32:34 George Macris unity: assignee George Macris (ubuderix)
2013-09-21 18:35:19 George Macris description For the last several versions of Ubuntu, there was an inability to type Greek (or many non-latin scripts) in the Dash. With bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1205713 the problem has been fixed, and it got fixed by enabling IBus for Greek, Russian and several other scripts. However, this change revealed several deficiencies in IBus (tested with Greek and Russian): 1. It is no longer possible to use keyboard accelerators when the active keyboard layout is in Greek, Russian, etc. The reason is because the gtk+ IM contains special code so that Ctrl+A while in the Greek keyboard layout would still do a "Select All". Currently in Ubuntu 13.10, when you press, for example, Ctrl+A (with Greek layout active), the app receives a Greek Alpha, which is ignored by the app. The same goes with, for example, Alt+F, which no longer opens up the File menu. More background about this at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69230#c2 (FIXME: need to add link to gtk+ git with code on how they implement the solution) 2. The default keyboard shortcut to switch between keyboard layouts is Super+Space (default for IBus). Pressing the Super key ends up bringing up the HUD most of the times. I have been trying to get myself to press Super+Space more properly, but it's really difficult to get it right. I now get it right only about 30% of the times, and I need to pause when typing in order to check if I am actually writing by accident in the HUD. I would say it is a huge usability issue that, as is, will alienate non-English users of Ubuntu. 3. It is not possible to change the shortcut to switch keyboard layouts to the traditional Alt+Shift (used by most Ubuntu-gr users). In addition, if you manage to change the shortcut to something else, then it's impossible to change back to Super+Space. For the last several versions of Ubuntu, there was an inability to type Greek (or many non-latin scripts) in the Dash. With bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1205713 the problem has been fixed, and it got fixed by enabling IBus for Greek, Russian and several other scripts. However, this change revealed several deficiencies in IBus (tested with Greek and Russian): 1. It is no longer possible to use keyboard accelerators when the active keyboard layout is in Greek, Russian, etc. The reason is because the gtk+ IM contains special code so that Ctrl+A while in the Greek keyboard layout would still do a "Select All". Currently in Ubuntu 13.10, when you press, for example, Ctrl+A (with Greek layout active), the app receives a Greek Alpha, which is ignored by the app. The same goes with, for example, Alt+F, which no longer opens up the File menu. More background about this at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69230#c2 (FIXME: need to add link to gtk+ git with code on how they implement the solution) 2. The default keyboard shortcut to switch between keyboard layouts is Super+Space (default for IBus). Pressing the Super key ends up bringing up the HUD most of the times. I have been trying to get myself to press Super+Space more properly, but it's really difficult to get it right. I now get it right only about 30% of the times, and I need to pause when typing in order to check if I am actually writing by accident in the HUD. I would say it is a huge usability issue that, as is, will alienate non-English users of Ubuntu. 3. It is not possible to change the shortcut to switch keyboard layouts to the traditional Alt+Shift (used by most Ubuntu-gr users). In addition, if you manage to change the shortcut to something else, then it's impossible to change back to Super+Space.
2013-09-21 18:37:19 George Macris unity: assignee George Macris (ubuderix)
2013-09-21 18:44:45 George Macris bug added subscriber George Macris
2013-09-22 04:22:31 sterios prosiniklis bug added subscriber sterios prosiniklis
2013-09-22 04:43:58 Filippos Kolyvas attachment added Analysis on using greek layout with different applications https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1228422/+attachment/3834215/+files/greek-layout-saucy.png
2013-09-24 15:21:55 Stephen M. Webb marked as duplicate 1226962
2014-05-28 07:28:37 Filippos Kolyvas removed subscriber Filippos Kolyvas
2017-04-20 16:52:32 Nobuto Murata removed subscriber Nobuto Murata