Unity greeter depends on defunct upstart - Unable to login.

Bug #1537616 reported by jdfalk
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unity-greeter (Ubuntu)
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Bug Description

Unity greeter depends on upstart, ubuntu-desktop depends on unity-greeter, and unity depends on unity-greeter. Upstart causes all sorts of issues in a modern system that is running systemd, search the bug tracker for " Could not connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused" Because of this dependency when I try and purge upstart to make my system actually login (.xsession-errors shows a call to upstart-udev-bridge which fails) I have to switch to a completely different desktop environment. Upstart is deprecated and should be removed from dependencies as fast as humanly possible so we can all forget that chapter in linux development.

.xsession-errors
openConnection: connect: No such file or directory
cannot connect to brltty at :0
upstart: Failed to spawn upstart-udev-bridge main process: unable to execute: No such file or directory
upstart: unity-gtk-module pre-start process (3892) terminated with status 127
upstart: dbus pre-start process (3900) terminated with status 127

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 15.10
Package: unity-greeter 15.10.1-0ubuntu1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.2.0-25.30-generic 4.2.6
Uname: Linux 4.2.0-25-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.19.1-0ubuntu5
Architecture: amd64
Date: Sun Jan 24 20:29:16 2016
InstallationDate: Installed on 2015-05-10 (260 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu-Server 15.04 "Vivid Vervet" - Release amd64 (20150422)
ProcEnviron:
 TERM=xterm-256color
 PATH=(custom, no user)
 LANG=en_US.UTF-8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
SourcePackage: unity-greeter
UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to wily on 2015-10-26 (90 days ago)

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jdfalk (johnathan-falk) wrote :
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Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :

Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

Changed in unity-greeter (Ubuntu):
status: New → Confirmed
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Alberto Salvia Novella (es20490446e) wrote :

Bug #1537610 can be related.

Changed in unity-greeter (Ubuntu):
importance: Undecided → Critical
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Stephen M. Webb (bregma) wrote :

Upstart is not deprecated and is still in use as the session manager in Ubuntu even with systemd in use as the init manager. Systemd does not offer equivalent functionality and there are not plands to add them.. If you remove critical desktop components, you break your system and it is not a bug.

Changed in unity-greeter (Ubuntu):
status: Confirmed → Invalid
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jdfalk (johnathan-falk) wrote :

I suggest you google "upstart desktop fails," "upstart desktop fails to load," "upstart blank desktop" and look at the 168,000 results (for just upstart desktop fails). Considering that you can write a graphical shell that doesn't use upstart, and people have for ages before upstart, and they will for ages after upstart this still is a valid bug.

Changed in unity-greeter (Ubuntu):
status: Invalid → New
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Nayeem Syed (developerinlondon) wrote :

I have the same problem also. I have tried on both ubuntu 15.10 and ubuntu 16.04 with no luck.

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Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :

Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

Changed in unity-greeter (Ubuntu):
status: New → Confirmed
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Ken (bixler) wrote :

This one hurt. I'm installing for a new, curious about linux user and the live USB was fine. Installation crashed and I find no fixes after two days of searching. We'll go with Mint Rosa which installed just fine. This may be the last of Ubu for me.

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jdfalk (johnathan-falk) wrote : Re: [Bug 1537616] Re: Unity greeter depends on defunct upstart - Unable to login.

Yeah especially when developers done want to fix issues. I have recommended
a lot of people go to mint. It's stabler and dev's actually care about the
users. Hopefully, the comments/tone Stephen Webb used aren't reflective of
the whole attitude of the Ubuntu dev's. I have to believe they understand
doing what's best for the user.
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 2:02 PM Ken <email address hidden> wrote:

> This one hurt. I'm installing for a new, curious about linux user and
> the live USB was fine. Installation crashed and I find no fixes after
> two days of searching. We'll go with Mint Rosa which installed just
> fine. This may be the last of Ubu for me.
>
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> Title:
> Unity greeter depends on defunct upstart - Unable to login.
>
> Status in unity-greeter package in Ubuntu:
> Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
> Unity greeter depends on upstart, ubuntu-desktop depends on unity-
> greeter, and unity depends on unity-greeter. Upstart causes all sorts
> of issues in a modern system that is running systemd, search the bug
> tracker for " Could not connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to
> socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused" Because of this
> dependency when I try and purge upstart to make my system actually
> login (.xsession-errors shows a call to upstart-udev-bridge which
> fails) I have to switch to a completely different desktop environment.
> Upstart is deprecated and should be removed from dependencies as fast
> as humanly possible so we can all forget that chapter in linux
> development.
>
> .xsession-errors
> openConnection: connect: No such file or directory
> cannot connect to brltty at :0
> upstart: Failed to spawn upstart-udev-bridge main process: unable to
> execute: No such file or directory
> upstart: unity-gtk-module pre-start process (3892) terminated with
> status 127
> upstart: dbus pre-start process (3900) terminated with status 127
>
> ProblemType: Bug
> DistroRelease: Ubuntu 15.10
> Package: unity-greeter 15.10.1-0ubuntu1
> ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.2.0-25.30-generic 4.2.6
> Uname: Linux 4.2.0-25-generic x86_64
> ApportVersion: 2.19.1-0ubuntu5
> Architecture: amd64
> Date: Sun Jan 24 20:29:16 2016
> InstallationDate: Installed on 2015-05-10 (260 days ago)
> InstallationMedia: Ubuntu-Server 15.04 "Vivid Vervet" - Release amd64
> (20150422)
> ProcEnviron:
> TERM=xterm-256color
> PATH=(custom, no user)
> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
> SHELL=/bin/bash
> SourcePackage: unity-greeter
> UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to wily on 2015-10-26 (90 days ago)
>
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Thank You,
Johnathan Falk

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