Activity log for bug #6367

Date Who What changed Old value New value Message
2006-01-02 18:09:11 Edward Mendelson bug added bug
2006-01-02 18:09:41 Edward Mendelson bug assigned to Ubuntu
2006-01-05 11:32:10 Daniel Holbach None: status New Rejected
2006-03-16 16:02:46 Paul Sladen linux86: statusexplanation
2006-03-16 16:05:22 Paul Sladen title Hard disk dev name changes when ThinkPad is docked IDE enumeration differs between docked and undocked on ThinkPad T42
2006-03-16 23:43:50 RobotTwo linux-source-2.6.15: severity Normal Critical
2006-03-16 23:43:50 RobotTwo linux-source-2.6.15: statusexplanation This is a pretty critical bug, as a beginner would have no idea how to boot his/her system!
2006-03-21 15:15:17 Ben Collins linux-source-2.6.15: status Unconfirmed Confirmed
2006-03-21 15:15:17 Ben Collins linux-source-2.6.15: statusexplanation This is a pretty critical bug, as a beginner would have no idea how to boot his/her system! Here's the quick summary: Kernel: There's no way for the kernel to make any exceptions here. The drivers are loaded in a specific order that the kernel has no control over. It just does what it is told. Udev: Udev shouldn't have to worry about the order of modules. Maybe the user could blacklist the module for the docking station IDE, but that's a hack. The real fix here is probe-root-fs. Using the UUID alleviates all the problems here. However, this is currently only implemented for removable devices (there was a long discussion about this on #ubuntu-devel). I'm punting this over to grub-installer (which handles when to use UUID and when to use device path), since it will need to handle the details of this. This will probably NOT be fixed for dapper.
2006-04-24 15:06:47 Marten Klencke title IDE enumeration differs between docked and undocked on ThinkPad T42 Wrong IDE enumeration with multiple IDE controllers
2006-05-03 03:03:05 Matt Zimmerman grub-installer: assignee adconrad
2006-05-03 03:03:05 Matt Zimmerman grub-installer: statusexplanation Here's the quick summary: Kernel: There's no way for the kernel to make any exceptions here. The drivers are loaded in a specific order that the kernel has no control over. It just does what it is told. Udev: Udev shouldn't have to worry about the order of modules. Maybe the user could blacklist the module for the docking station IDE, but that's a hack. The real fix here is probe-root-fs. Using the UUID alleviates all the problems here. However, this is currently only implemented for removable devices (there was a long discussion about this on #ubuntu-devel). I'm punting this over to grub-installer (which handles when to use UUID and when to use device path), since it will need to handle the details of this. This will probably NOT be fixed for dapper. Nothing to do with grub-installer; the most likely place to deal with this will be initramfs-tools. That is, unless the kernel update has fixed it? Can anyone confirm?
2006-05-03 03:03:58 Matt Zimmerman title Wrong IDE enumeration with multiple IDE controllers Hard disk order changes when using docking station
2006-05-03 03:04:18 Matt Zimmerman initramfs-tools: severity Critical Major
2006-05-03 03:04:18 Matt Zimmerman initramfs-tools: statusexplanation Nothing to do with grub-installer; the most likely place to deal with this will be initramfs-tools. That is, unless the kernel update has fixed it? Can anyone confirm?
2006-05-03 16:58:26 Scott James Remnant (Canonical) initramfs-tools: assignee adconrad keybuk
2006-05-03 19:10:47 Scott James Remnant (Canonical) udev: status Confirmed Needs Info
2006-05-03 21:56:46 Edward Mendelson bug added attachment 'udev.undocked' (Udev from undocked ThinkPad T42)
2006-05-03 21:59:32 Edward Mendelson bug added attachment 'udev.docked' (Udev from DOCKED ThinkPad T42)
2006-05-03 23:40:21 Marten Klencke bug added attachment 'udev' (udev log on computer with IDE/RAID PCI card)
2006-05-04 13:29:52 Scott James Remnant (Canonical) bug added subscriber Matt Zimmerman
2006-05-04 13:35:48 Scott James Remnant (Canonical) udev: status Needs Info Confirmed
2006-05-29 18:01:06 Paul Sladen title Hard disk order changes when using docking station udev enumeration should use /sys/bus not /sys/devices
2006-06-07 09:52:57 Scott James Remnant (Canonical) grub-installer: status Unconfirmed Rejected
2006-06-07 09:52:57 Scott James Remnant (Canonical) grub-installer: statusexplanation Rejecting assignment to grub-installer
2006-07-31 12:08:36 Scott James Remnant (Canonical) udev: status Confirmed Fix Released
2006-07-31 12:08:36 Scott James Remnant (Canonical) udev: statusexplanation Marking as fixed (for edgy)
2006-07-31 12:10:47 Scott James Remnant (Canonical) udev: status Unconfirmed Confirmed
2006-07-31 12:10:47 Scott James Remnant (Canonical) udev: assignee keybuk
2006-07-31 12:10:47 Scott James Remnant (Canonical) udev: statusexplanation Marking as open in dapper -- in case we decide to backport the fix to -updates My current opinion is "NO", this broke several things in edgy (soundcard ordering, SATA vs. IDE ordering, network card ordering,etc.) Fortunately we had other things in place in edgy to fix those before they broke
2006-08-17 16:35:49 Scott James Remnant (Canonical) udev: status Confirmed Rejected
2006-08-17 16:35:49 Scott James Remnant (Canonical) udev: statusexplanation Marking as open in dapper -- in case we decide to backport the fix to -updates My current opinion is "NO", this broke several things in edgy (soundcard ordering, SATA vs. IDE ordering, network card ordering,etc.) Fortunately we had other things in place in edgy to fix those before they broke Officially marking as Rejected for dapper. Here is the reasoning: - We applied the "fix", as planned, to the udev in Edgy Eft. - While the fix corrected the problem described here, it caused new problems. Because it was a fundamental change to device ordering, it changed the order of other devices where more than one existed in the system -- including other disks - For Edgy this was not a problem, as the upgrade makes other changes that make device order non-important anyway - These changes are too invasive for backporting to dapper - This bug has a known workaround, which can be applied by the minority of users affected by it - That workaround is preferable to causing far more working systems to cease functioning.
2012-05-29 13:21:44 Curtis Hovey removed subscriber Registry Administrators
2017-06-22 18:19:10 Danilo Oliveira Pinheiro grub-installer (Ubuntu): status Invalid New
2017-06-22 18:19:16 Danilo Oliveira Pinheiro ubuntu: status Invalid New
2017-06-22 18:19:22 Danilo Oliveira Pinheiro udev (Ubuntu Dapper): status Invalid New
2017-06-23 09:50:05 Colin Watson ubuntu: status New Invalid
2017-06-23 09:50:11 Colin Watson grub-installer (Ubuntu): status New Invalid
2017-06-23 09:50:15 Colin Watson udev (Ubuntu Dapper): status New Invalid