ubuntu-virt-mgmt installing kvm and libvirt-bin

[Niklas Hagman]

When doing installation of metapackage ubuntu-virt-mgmt, server parts is also installed. Like libvirt-bin and kvm. This is an dependencies error.

ubuntu-virt-mgmt should in my meaning only install stuff that is used to control a virtualization environment. Not create on as it does now. Creating a virtualization environment is for metapackage ubuntu-virt-server to take care of.

[Niklas Hagman (blinkiz)]

I don't think the problem is in the metapackage ubuntu-virt-mgmt directly. Package "virt-manager" also installs a complete virtualization environment. So feel free to move this bug report around until it's in the right project/package.

[Dustin Kirkland  (kirkland)]

Hello Niklas-

Thanks for the report. I think you're confused about two different packages.

 * ubuntu-virt-server is a meta package that installs the basic packages needed to *host* virtual machines

 * ubuntu-virt-mgmt is a second meta package (also part of the same source package) that contains the packages needed to manage a virtual machine.

From your description, I think you want to install both of these on your systems.

Thanks,
:-Dustin

[Niklas Hagman (blinkiz)]

ubuntu-virt-mgmt is installing packages needed to manage a virtual machines. BUT it is also installing packages to *host* virtual machines.

This bug report is created because of this. Dependencies error.
Is the same problem in intrepid as in jaunty.

[Dustin Kirkland  (kirkland)]

Ah, okay, sorry, I misread.

So ubuntu-virt-mgmt depends on:
 * virt-manager, python-vm-builder, virt-viewer

As you mentioned, we'd need to discuss whether those packages should depend on the server parts of virtualization.

:-Dustin

[Niklas Hagman (blinkiz)]

It's okay to install these tree packages as long kvm or libvirt-bin does not get installed. But it is. And that's the error am trying to identify with this bug report.

metapackage ubuntu-virt-mgmt has lost is value because the server parts of virtualization is also installed. I see "ubuntu-virt-mgmt" as a good metapackage for me to install on my laptop. On my server, "ubuntu-virt-server" is installed. And according to Dustin Kirkland above, this is how the metapackage ubuntu-virt-mgmt is meant for. Because of this, I see this more as a bug then a wishlist thing.

"sudo apt-get install virt-manger" is installing libvirt-bin and kvm. Why?
"sudo apt-get install python-vm-builder" is installing kvm. Why?
I don't understand these dependencies any good, so someone else needs to help me find why packages to *host* virtual machines is installed.

[Niklas Hagman (blinkiz)]

My personal goal here is to install virt-manager on my laptop to be able to control my server. If I do install virt-manager am forced to install a complete kvm/libvirt environment and this breaks my VirtualBox setup on my laptop.

So I still need to compile virt-manager from source to get around this bug. Grrrr...

[Eucalyptus bugbot (bugs+eucalyptus)]

virt-manager recommends libvirt-bin, and libvirt-bin recommends kvm. Since Intrepid, we install recommended packages by default. You are free to remove them, though. (or run "apt-get install virt-manager kvm- libvirt-bin-", for instance)

[Niklas Hagman (blinkiz)]

Oh. didn't know that recommended packages was installed by default. Thats great that I can deselect packages with "-" sign.
Okay, I let ubuntu staff decide if this bug should stay open or not. I believe its still a problem that ubuntu-virt-mgmt is installing almost completely is counterpart ubuntu-virt-server by default.