ubuntu-desktop should require totem, not totem-gstreamer

[Julien Olivier]

Currently, ubuntu-desktop requires totem-gstreamer. That means that, if you want
to install totem-xine you have to remove ubuntu-desktop.
I think it would be smarter to make ubuntu-desktop require totem instead of
totem-gstreamer so that you can install totem-xine without breaking ubuntu-desktop.

[Matt Zimmerman (mdz)]

It's not entirely clear to me that this is the correct solution to the problem.

- ubuntu-desktop reflects the official package seed lists, so this would mean
listing totem (rather than totem-gstreamer) in the seed
- We hope that totem-gstreamer will be improved for the next release, and it may
very well be desirable for Hoary users to switch back to it
- It's nice for "do you have ubuntu-desktop installed?" to be able to be a
useful test for whether the standard desktop application suite is in use; it
complicates things if there are multiple ways to resolve its dependencies (this
is already possible with virtual packages, but let's not make it worse)

My preferred solution is for totem-gstreamer and totem-xine to be installable in
parallel, but Jeff and Sebastien tell me that this is prohibitively complex.

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

On the plan of the // installations. These files are in the packages:
/usr/bin/totem
/usr/bin/totem-video-thumbnailer
/usr/lib/totem/totem-properties-page
/usr/lib/bonobo/servers/Totem_properties.server
/usr/share/applications/totem.desktop

So we need to use an alternative for all these files and totem will be listed
twice in the panel/the menu "open with"/...
That's really not the "just work" way imho.

[Julien Olivier (julo)]

I really don't think totem-gstreamer and totem-xine should be installable in
parallel. Whether you *need* totem-xine over totem-gstreamer (because you have
some videos that don't work in totem-gstreamer) or not. But I don't think any
user will need totem-gstreamer *and* totem-xine at the same time.

Maybe a good solution could be to make ubuntu-desktop depend on totem for now,
and make it depend on totem-gstreamer as soon as totem-gstreamer reaches
totem-xine's level (which is not quite the case right now).

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

Ok, I've uploaded a new package with totem = totem-gstreamer | totem-xine.

About totem-gstreamer, I use it here and it works pretty fine now ... but with
gst-ffmpeg
which is not in the archive at this point ... not sure about what we can do for
this.

[Matt Zimmerman (mdz)]

So the remaining action is to seed totem, rather than totem-gstreamer. Colin,
if that doesn't give you a nervous feeling in the pit of your stomach, let's go
ahead and do it

[Colin Watson (cjwatson)]

germinate seems to deal with this fine; seed updated. Once James promote totem
to main we can update ubuntu-meta too and close this bug.

[Colin Watson (cjwatson)]

     totem | 0.101-0ubuntu2 | hoary/main | all, source

Therefore, closing this bug:

ubuntu-meta (0.22) hoary; urgency=low

  * Refreshed dependencies
  * Added totem to desktop-i386, desktop-amd64, desktop-powerpc,
    desktop-ia64
  * Removed totem-gstreamer from desktop-i386, desktop-amd64, desktop-
    powerpc, desktop-ia64

 -- Colin Watson <email address hidden> Sun, 30 Jan 2005 18:34:59 +0000