Eye Candy page not easily accessible

[Vadim Peretokin]

Binary package hint: ubuntu-docs

A great Ubuntu Eye Candy page (found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy) should be more easily accessible to the user - right now, they can only reach it by typing in "eye candy" in the search box, which generally won't be the case with many users.

I would be more useful if the link to the eye candy page was included in this page (https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/config-desktop/C/index.html), at the bottom of the list, labelled "Eye Candy".

The reason for this is if someone goes to just help.ubuntu.com, then clicks on 'Customizing your Desktop', they'd be able to access the eye candy page from right there, in the end making their ubuntu experience more pleasurable much sooner.

[Phil Bull (philbull)]

This seems sensible. All that would be needed is a link to the page.

[Matthew East (mdke)]

Note that the real cause of this bug is just that it's unclear to have
a separation between help.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com/community -
if you start at the latter, there is a clear link on the front page
which takes you to the Eye Candy page.

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[Vadim Peretokin (vperetokin)]

True.

This is a problem in itself then. help.ubuntu.com and
help.ubuntu.com/community seem to contain pretty much the same information,
except the latter is more detailed...

On 9/8/07, Matthew East <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> Note that the real cause of this bug is just that it's unclear to have
> a separation between help.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com/community -
> if you start at the latter, there is a clear link on the front page
> which takes you to the Eye Candy page.
>
> --
> Matthew East
> http://www.mdke.org
> gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF
>
> --
> Eye Candy page not easily accessible
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/138288
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[Duncan Lithgow (duncan-lithgow)]

The trouble with having the official and the community, and the fact
that people often don't find the other part would be solved if each
section of the official docs had a link to the corresponding section of
the community docs (and maybe one back again).

[Vadim Peretokin (vperetokin)]

This is an excellent idea actually, I can't think of anything better.

Anyone else have any output on this?

[Matthew East (mdke)]

On 11/09/2007, Vadim Peretokin <email address hidden> wrote:
> This is an excellent idea actually, I can't think of anything better.

My plan is to merge the two parts of the site, so that all the
documents are integrated into a single structure. There are a few
things I still need to figure out how to do though, I think I will
write a spec and discuss it on the documentation team mailing list,
after we've finished the urgent things for Gutsy.

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Matthew East
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[Vadim Peretokin (vperetokin)]

Right.

How did this happen in the first place? Was the some reason for this?

[Matthew East (mdke)]

On 11/09/2007, Vadim Peretokin <email address hidden> wrote:
> How did this happen in the first place? Was the some reason for this?

Yes, a number of reasons.

1. We didn't (and still don't) have the appropriate toolchain to
convert our documentation to moin markup. I've recently been playing
around with the best tools that we have to do this, and
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MatthewEast/Test is the result. A few things
to iron out but hopefully with a bit of work we can tidy this up.
2. The above isn't really a fundamental objection, given that Moin can
quite easily support HTML pages. However, we have not currently got a
solid way to distinguish between different levels of reliability in
the wiki, so there's no way to tell users "this page is the good
stuff, you can trust it", and "this page hasn't been verified, follow
with caution", and the various different grades in between. We're
working on this at the following specification:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpWikiQualityAssurance.

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Matthew East
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[Vadim Peretokin (vperetokin)]

I see.

Is there anything I can help with really then here?

[Matthew East (mdke)]

This bug needs a spec and a major overhaul of how we publish online docs, so I'm closing it. A spec can be worked on in due course.

The page is pretty accessible in that it's available from the front page of the help wiki, which itself is linked from help.u.c so the specific bug isn't a huge issue.