Activity log for bug #1992026

Date Who What changed Old value New value Message
2022-10-06 18:48:40 Julian Andres Klode bug added bug
2022-10-06 19:14:12 Launchpad Janitor ubuntu-advantage-tools (Ubuntu): status New Confirmed
2022-10-06 19:20:29 Andreas Hasenack bug added subscriber Andreas Hasenack
2022-10-06 19:27:00 Jeremy Bícha bug added subscriber Jeremy Bicha
2022-10-06 19:51:28 Ken MacInnis bug added subscriber Ken MacInnis
2022-10-06 20:14:03 Benjamin Drung bug added subscriber Benjamin Drung
2022-10-06 20:17:54 Renan Rodrigo ubuntu-advantage-tools (Ubuntu): status Confirmed Triaged
2022-10-06 20:18:42 Renan Rodrigo ubuntu-advantage-tools (Ubuntu): importance Undecided Critical
2022-10-06 21:33:30 Alex Murray bug added subscriber Alex Murray
2022-10-06 22:27:21 Robie Basak bug added subscriber Robie Basak
2022-10-07 11:22:55 Bernd Wolber bug added subscriber Bernd Wolber
2022-10-07 11:29:47 Utkarsh Gupta bug added subscriber Utkarsh Gupta
2022-10-07 19:43:54 Renan Rodrigo ubuntu-advantage-tools (Ubuntu): status Triaged In Progress
2022-10-07 19:46:46 Renan Rodrigo ubuntu-advantage-tools (Ubuntu): assignee Grant Orndorff (orndorffgrant)
2022-10-08 19:02:41 Shane Synan bug added subscriber Shane Synan
2022-10-08 20:47:19 Juozas Pocius bug added subscriber Juozas Pocius
2022-10-10 02:29:01 Chris Guiver bug added subscriber Chris Guiver
2022-10-10 21:03:12 Renan Rodrigo description When we designed the whole hook mechanism for what was ua esm back in the day, the intent was for this to be an interface to tastefully display information about additional updates you are missing out on without a subscription. The new Ubuntu Pro message crosses the line of a tasteful additional information and is negatively impacting apt user experience. The top message I saw today on /r/Ubuntu was https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/xxafiu/how_to_remove_advertisements_from_apt/ I'd vastly prefer hooks not to use their freedom to display information irrelevant at the specific point. At this hook, the user should be notified about updates, like updates in Ubuntu pro they are missing out on, or I guess pending blocked snap refreshes are valid options. For messages like the Ubuntu Pro beta announcement, we already have the motd mechanism. [Impact] This bug impacts any LTS system which is not attached to a Pro subscription. Since 27.11.2, they started seeing the Ubuntu Pro beta message in the output of apt upgrade. This was considered regression from the point of view of users which were relying on that output. Although this is not recommended, it is what was happening there. Other users are just annoyed that the message is there at all. The mitigation strategy decided with Product Management for this problem is composed of two steps: 1. Move the Ubuntu Pro message to the very bottom of the apt output, and 2. Provide a `pro` command to disable the pro-client related messaging in APT completely. [Test Case] There is an integration test which now covers this functionality. A manual test script is also provided for the postinst behavior. As soon as the package with the fixes lands in -proposed, output for those can be executed using it for verification. [Regression Potential] People may argue that the message in the bottom of the output is still regression. For those, running the command to opt-out makes the message disappear. This is the best alternative our team can provide so far. [Discussion] It is important to notice that: - This message is temporary and will disappear as soon as Ubuntu Pro hits GA. - There is product interest in keeping the message there. - The command to disable APT messages will stay, so it can be used for any future message that the Pro Client inserts. - We cannot, for technical reasons, omit the message when the 'quiet' option is provided for apt (-qq, -qqq). For users who want APT to be quiet all times, we recommend using the command to disable the messaging from the pro client. In the future, if the APT hooks let us, we can comply with that functionality. [Original Description] When we designed the whole hook mechanism for what was ua esm back in the day, the intent was for this to be an interface to tastefully display information about additional updates you are missing out on without a subscription. The new Ubuntu Pro message crosses the line of a tasteful additional information and is negatively impacting apt user experience. The top message I saw today on /r/Ubuntu was https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/xxafiu/how_to_remove_advertisements_from_apt/ I'd vastly prefer hooks not to use their freedom to display information irrelevant at the specific point. At this hook, the user should be notified about updates, like updates in Ubuntu pro they are missing out on, or I guess pending blocked snap refreshes are valid options. For messages like the Ubuntu Pro beta announcement, we already have the motd mechanism.
2022-10-10 21:22:04 Launchpad Janitor merge proposal linked https://code.launchpad.net/~renanrodrigo/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-advantage-tools/+git/ubuntu-advantage-tools/+merge/431300
2022-10-10 21:33:21 Renan Rodrigo bug added subscriber Renan Rodrigo
2022-10-12 02:53:37 darkrain42 bug added subscriber darkrain42
2022-10-12 19:40:34 Simon Déziel bug added subscriber Simon Déziel
2022-10-13 17:18:59 e9jg9e8vdfhvduafsi bug added subscriber Rodrigo Siqueira Telles
2022-10-13 23:37:08 Felix bug added subscriber Felix
2022-10-18 00:18:04 Launchpad Janitor merge proposal linked https://code.launchpad.net/~orndorffgrant/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-advantage-tools/+git/ubuntu-advantage-tools/+merge/431701
2022-10-29 02:52:24 Sky bug added subscriber Sky
2022-11-15 16:52:30 Dariusz Gadomski bug added subscriber Dariusz Gadomski
2022-11-23 15:10:29 Josh Lee bug added subscriber Josh Lee
2023-02-08 15:56:53 Jonas Jelten bug added subscriber Jonas Jelten
2023-02-08 16:24:20 Alberto Contreras bug added subscriber Alberto Contreras
2023-02-14 08:15:34 Sander bug added subscriber Sander
2023-02-15 05:04:06 Binh-Nguyen Tran bug added subscriber Binh-Nguyen Tran
2023-02-15 08:39:36 Nobuto Murata bug added subscriber Nobuto Murata
2023-02-18 08:42:51 outa bug added subscriber outa
2023-02-18 08:43:17 outa removed subscriber outa
2023-02-21 08:10:18 Harvald bug added subscriber Harvald
2023-03-10 01:32:00 Dan Streetman bug added subscriber Dan Streetman
2023-04-27 20:40:13 Travisgevans bug added subscriber Travisgevans
2024-01-31 20:42:44 schamane bug added subscriber schamane
2024-04-07 21:25:09 Jonas Jelten removed subscriber Jonas Jelten