Program "vlna" missing from package.

[Shkodran Gerguri]

Program "vlna" for correct insertion of unbreakable space between certain words is missing from the package, despite being described as being part of it.

Occured on:
Linux Tomahna 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Sun Sep 23 19:50:39 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux

Package:
texlive-lang-czechslovak

[Norbert Preining (preining)]

On Sa, 29 Sep 2007, Shkodran Gerguri wrote:
> Program "vlna" for correct insertion of unbreakable space between
> certain words is missing from the package, despite being described as
> being part of it.

Interestingly TeX Live upstream NEVER shipped vlna in any architecture
but Windows. I have no idea whether this program is actually needed in
the non-Windows world, and I cannot read/understand anyway what is
written because the whole documentation is in a Czech.

If you think that this program is worth please contact the texlive
mailing list explaining why, otherwise it will be never included:
 <email address hidden>

Thanks

Best wishes

Norbert

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[Shkodran Gerguri (s-gerguri)]

This is interesting, since the description of the package texlive-lang-czechslovak clearly states:
Pick this if you want Czech/Slovak fonts and other packages

This package includes the following CTAN packages:
 cs -- CM fonts extension for Czech/Slovak.
 cslatex -- LaTeX support for Czech/Slovak typesetting.
 csplain -- Plain TeX support for Czech/Slovak typesetting.
 bin-cslatex -- LaTeX support for Czech/Slovak typesetting.
 bin-csplain -- Plain TeX support for Czech/Slovak typesetting.
 bin-vlna -- Binaries for the Vlna program.
 hyphen-czechslovak -- Czechslovak scripts

(taken from Synaptic's description of package)

This program is actually needed on every platform you intend to typeset Czech documents on. Prepositions (and certain connectives) connected to words (e.g. "k Pavlovi") cannot be split - you cannot leave the preposition "k" at the end of one line and continue the word to which it connects (in this case "Pavlovi") on the next line - this is against Czech typographical rules.

I think that given the description of the package, the program _should_ be present, so that's why I filed it as a bug. Especially considering that after installation the manual page is present, but the program Vlna itself not.

Best regards,

Shkodran Gerguri

[Norbert Preining (preining)]

Dear all!

On the Ubuntu side one user mentioned that the vlna is not present. And
this is true, it is only present for arch=win32.

Is there a reason for this? I cannot understand the documentation at
all, but the user told me that it should be necessary on all platforms
(see below).

Any comments?

Thanks a lot and all the best

Norbert

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> From: Shkodran Gerguri <email address hidden>
> Subject: [Bug 146743] Re: Program "vlna" missing from package.
> To: <email address hidden>
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> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 20:10:52 -0000
>
> This is interesting, since the description of the package texlive-lang-czechslovak clearly states:
> Pick this if you want Czech/Slovak fonts and other packages
>
> This package includes the following CTAN packages:
> cs -- CM fonts extension for Czech/Slovak.
> cslatex -- LaTeX support for Czech/Slovak typesetting.
> csplain -- Plain TeX support for Czech/Slovak typesetting.
> bin-cslatex -- LaTeX support for Czech/Slovak typesetting.
> bin-csplain -- Plain TeX support for Czech/Slovak typesetting.
> bin-vlna -- Binaries for the Vlna program.
> hyphen-czechslovak -- Czechslovak scripts
>
> (taken from Synaptic's description of package)
>
> This program is actually needed on every platform you intend to typeset
> Czech documents on. Prepositions (and certain connectives) connected to
> words (e.g. "k Pavlovi") cannot be split - you cannot leave the
> preposition "k" at the end of one line and continue the word to which it
> connects (in this case "Pavlovi") on the next line - this is against
> Czech typographical rules.
>
> I think that given the description of the package, the program _should_
> be present, so that's why I filed it as a bug. Especially considering
> that after installation the manual page is present, but the program Vlna
> itself not.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Shkodran Gerguri
>
> --
> Program "vlna" missing from package.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146743
> You received this bug notification because you are a member of Debian
> TeX Maintainers, which is a bug contact for texlive-lang in ubuntu.

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Best wishes

Norbert

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[Daniel T Chen (crimsun)]

Confirmed in 8.04.1, 8.10, and Debian unstable.

[corwin78 (michal-breskovec)]

I confirm that Vlna is missing on 9.10 too.