Ubuntu

where is tlmgr?!?!

Reported by anabelli on 2010-06-08
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This bug affects 22 people
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texlive-base (Ubuntu)
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Bug Description

Binary package hint: texlive-base

What are we waiting for?!

why tlmgr can be found in the vanilla version and not in the ubuntu package?

landroni (landroni) wrote :

There's been a long discussion on the topic on lyx-users [1]. I also see it as a major (and quite disturbing) missing feature of TeXLive on Ubuntu

[1] http://<email address hidden>/msg82446.html

landroni (landroni) wrote :

There is also a related brainstorm idea [1]. Please vote if you're affected

[1] http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/11449/

On So, 26 Sep 2010, landroni wrote:
> There's been a long discussion on the topic on lyx-users [1]. I also see
> it as a major (and quite disturbing) missing feature of TeXLive on
> Ubuntu

Arrrgg,g discussed hundreds of times, always with the same answers,
forget it.

On So, 26 Sep 2010, landroni wrote:
> There is also a related brainstorm idea [1]. Please vote if you're
> affected

I just now proposed a solution there, the only possible one:

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There is no way that a second package manager independent of the normal packaging infra structure (apt here, or rpm, or whatever) can work, because it will break the main system.

TeX Live Manager is currently only for system trees. THere is a patch in the dev repository for activating user mode, so that tlmgr can be used to manage TEXMFHOME, but it has not been worked on since quite some time (due to myself lacking the time of, I developped the initial version).

So instead of complaining and suggesting useless things that will never happen due to the way distributions work, you could get your hands dirty and help coding perl!
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Best wishes

Norbert
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Norbert Preining preining@{jaist.ac.jp, logic.at, debian.org}
JAIST, Japan TeX Live & Debian Developer
DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094
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landroni (landroni) wrote :

OK, I see. Thanks for sharing the info. After several 'tlmgr' searches on Google, Launchpad and Brainstorm didn't reveal much other than this bug and the idea, I felt compelled to raise the noise. Apparently it was already too loud.

Unfortunately I'm no perl developer and my help would do little good. Thanks for working on this feature

Ingo Gerth (igerth) on 2010-10-14
Changed in texlive-base (Ubuntu):
status: New → Confirmed
Dražen Lučanin (kermit666) wrote :

But if there can't be a separate packaging system, how come we can normally use easy_install or pip for Python packages? What method did they use to enable it alongside apt and could this be used for tlmgr as well?

Norbert Preining (preining) wrote :

On Fr, 03 Aug 2012, Dražen Lučanin wrote:
> But if there can't be a separate packaging system, how come we can
> normally use easy_install or pip for Python packages? What method did

I have no idea what easy_install and pip are and what they are doing,
I assume installing into /usr/local.

I have seen somewhere a wrapper/patch for tlmgr that does something
similar, but I don't want to develop it myself.

Everyone is invited to work on that and send me patches.

Best wishes

Norbert
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Norbert Preining preining@{jaist.ac.jp, logic.at, debian.org}
JAIST, Japan TeX Live & Debian Developer
DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094
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