missing feature: friendly names

[Fibonacci]

Binary package hint: telepathy-butterfly

When chatting with an MSN group (e.g. those on http://groups.im/) on Empathy, I can't see the name of the members who write each message - I only see the name of the group.
WLM (of course), aMSN, emesene, and Mercury all display the right names on MSN groups. I don't know what the right name for this feature is, but emesene calls it "friendly names", so I'm sticking with that.

[Fibonacci (fibonacci-prower)]

Update: apparently this only happens when I am chatting offline. When chatting online friendly names are displayed.
Still, the fact remains that all other apps I mentioned support it.

[Fibonacci (fibonacci-prower)]

My bad, actually friendly names don't show even when online.

[Fibonacci (fibonacci-prower)]

When chatting with an MSN group (e.g. those on http://groups.im/) on Empathy, I can't see the name of the members who write each message - I only see the name of the group.
WLM (of course), aMSN, emesene, and Mercury all display the right names on MSN groups. I don't know what the right name for this feature is, but emesene calls it "friendly names", so I'm sticking with that.

This has also been reported on Launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-butterfly/+bug/485017

[Brian Curtis (bcurtiswx)]

Thank you for your bug report and helping to make Ubuntu better. I am marking this as wishlist as it is such. It would be good if someone could push this bug to the developers upstream. This can be done at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/ .

[Fibonacci (fibonacci-prower)]

Perhaps you could tell me why you marked it as incomplete. What is this bug report missing?

[Brian Curtis (bcurtiswx)]

@ Fibonacci: It would be good if someone could push this bug to the developers upstream. This can be done at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/ . i said this in my previous comment.. That makes it incomplete.

[Fibonacci (fibonacci-prower)]

Done: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25272

[Olivier Le Thanh Duong (olethanh)]

There is more information on the Empathy's bug :
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=603172

[Jonny-lamb (jonny-lamb)]

To quote the illustrious Youness Alaoui from the empathy bug:

> The problem is that it's not the nickname that's being used in aMSN, it's the
> 'Friendly name'.. MSN has the ability to specify a "friendly name" *per
> message*.. this allows people to have huge ascii-art nicknames that do not
> bloat the chat windows when chatting. That's also what groups.im uses, I can
> confirm.
> This "Friendly name" is sent as a header in the message, the header is called
> "P4-Context". papyon supports it and sets it as the message.display_name on the
> event on_conversation_message_received.
> Telepathy-butterfly does not support it though.

[Jonny-lamb (jonny-lamb)]

There's currently no way to expose a new alias per message in the spec. I opened bug #27568 about this.

[Jonny-lamb (jonny-lamb)]

We don't actually have to wait for the spec change to go through and get released because that's just a list of "well-known keys".

Check out my patch.

[Simon McVittie (smcv)]

Looks good to me.

[Olivier Le Thanh Duong (olethanh)]

Merged, this fix is available in butterfly 0.5.10
Note it won't work in empathy as of now since it rely on the Messages interface which is not yet implemented

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

the telepathy-butterfly issue is fixed but it will changes in empathy as well

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

the new version is in maverick as well now

[Victor Vargas (kamus)]

@Fibonnaci, could you test if this behaviour is fixed in latest release of empathy included in Ubuntu Maverick? Because according to Sebastien comments this is solved.

[Fibonacci (fibonacci-prower)]

I haven't upgraded to Maverick yet. How can I test the program without upgrading my whole system?

[Brian Curtis (bcurtiswx)]

Since this is a bug in butterfly I am closing the empathy task. The butterfly issue is fixed in maverick.

[Franklin (franklin-goodhorse)]

I'm using empathy 2.30.2, telepathy-butterfly-0.5.11 installed from Mandriva packages.

However, this problem still occurred. I could not tell who were talking in the MSN group chat.

[Glauco (glauco-hass)]

Still present in empathy 2.32.0.1 and telepathy-butterfly-0.5.14-1, Ubuntu 10.10. No P4-Context support at all.

[Juan Sebastián Marulanda (juanchito2006)]

I can confirm this issue as well, Friendly Names aren't displayed at all.

[Brian Curtis (bcurtiswx)]

butterfly has had a lot of work for Natty, could someone having this issue please test this on Natty to see if this is still an issue?

[Fibonacci (fibonacci-prower)]

This is still an issue.

[Juan Sebastián Marulanda (juanchito2006)]

Still happening in Natty.