Ubuntu

Ubuntu Software Center should say "installed x am"

Reported by Thibault D on 2012-02-09
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Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
Ubuntu Translations
Low
Ubuntu French Translators
software-center (Ubuntu)
Low
Unassigned

Bug Description

Ubuntu Software Center already says : "deleted 8am" and "updated 8am".
But is says also : "Installed at 8am". (in the French translation)

To be consistent it should say "installed 8am".

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04
Package: software-center 5.1.8
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-15.24-generic-pae 3.2.5
Uname: Linux 3.2.0-15-generic-pae i686
ApportVersion: 1.91-0ubuntu1
Architecture: i386
CasperVersion: 1.304
Date: Thu Feb 9 18:59:50 2012
LiveMediaBuild: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" - Alpha i386 (20120209)
PackageArchitecture: all
SourcePackage: software-center
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

Thibault D (thibdrev) wrote :
Thibault D (thibdrev) on 2012-02-17
summary: - Ubuntu Software Center should say "deletet AT x am" and "updated AT x
+ Ubuntu Software Center should say "deleted AT x am" and "updated AT x
am""

Where do you see installed at? In the history?

Changed in software-center (Ubuntu):
status: New → Incomplete
importance: Undecided → Low
Thibault D (thibdrev) wrote :

Yes, it is in the history.
You can see it in the screenshot here attached.

Robert Roth (evfool) wrote :

That must be a translation issue with the French translation, as Software-center 5.2.1 on Precise does not use installed at x AM, only installed x AM. See the screenshot attached.

Robert Roth (evfool) wrote :

As a side-note, the specification (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter) specifies that the "at" word should not be there, so this bug should be about removing the "at" word from the installed at string's french translation, so I have added ubuntu translations as affected.

summary: - Ubuntu Software Center should say "deleted AT x am" and "updated AT x
- am""
+ Ubuntu Software Center should say "installed x am"
description: updated
Robert Roth (evfool) wrote :

I have updated the description and title of the bug to match the specification.

Changed in software-center (Ubuntu):
status: Incomplete → Invalid
Changed in ubuntu-translations:
importance: Undecided → Low
status: New → Confirmed
Thibault D (thibdrev) wrote :

Hi,

Thanks for the link to the specification. Indeed it shows that the "at" word is not to be shown.

Well, we'll have to stick to it but I don't understand why they don't want to see "at" between the action and the date. Maybe to avoid some technical or translation issues.

Even in the specification, when they describe the action they use "at" :
"For example, a removal that happened at 4:52 PM should appear in “All Changes” as “removed 4:52 PM”"...

Gabor Kelemen (kelemeng) on 2012-05-14
Changed in ubuntu-translations:
assignee: nobody → Ubuntu French Translators (ubuntu-l10n-fr)
status: Confirmed → Triaged
Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) wrote :

Thibault, in English it's okay to say something was "installed 10:08 AM" or "removed 4:52 PM" -- especially when it's in a UI rather than a sentence. (You can see this on a flight arrivals board, for example. <http://www.bloomberg.com/photo/u-k-pensions-strike-fails-to-disrupt-flights-/127859.html>) And usually, if it's easy to remove words from an interface, the interface is better off without them.

Maybe in some languages it is just weird to not have a preposition in those cases. If so, it's fine for those translations to have one. Just as long as each language either does it or doesn't do it consistently.

Thibault D (thibdrev) wrote :

Thanks for those clarifications. I understand that we have to keep it short and simple.
Maybe they should just add a comment in the code for the translators.

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