Candidates lookup table should be vertical by default in case of Japanese

[Jun Kobayashi]

In case of Japanese input, candidates look up table should be vertical by default.
This is because Japanese candidates table tend to be longer Chinese and Korean's one, so it's too wide to look up using horizontal table. Vertical lookup table is used on Windows and Mac Japanese Edition.

In Chinese and Korean case, it's good to set horizontal look up by default, so this is conflict issue between Japanese and other locales. I guess it's fit to language-selector.

[Ming Hua (minghua)]

I don't know what scim can do on this respect, as scim only provides a platform, and few input method by its own. Maybe something needs to be changed by the actual Japanese input method module (scim-anthy?)?

[Ikuya Awashiro (ikuya-fruitsbasket)]

> Maybe something needs to be changed by the actual Japanese input method module (scim-anthy?)?
No.
see [scim-setup] - [Panel] - [GTK] - [Input window] - [Vertical lookup table]

[ZhengPeng Hou (zhengpeng-hou)]

2007/5/15, Ikuya Awashiro <email address hidden>:
> > Maybe something needs to be changed by the actual Japanese input method module (scim-anthy?)?
> No.
> see [scim-setup] - [Panel] - [GTK] - [Input window] - [Vertical lookup table]
>
maybe we can patch scim, and let it know which module it ussing, if
use scim-anthy, scim-chewing, then use vertical. As Jun has said,
simplified Chinese used to horizontal, it hard to ship with default
settings for every language users.

[Ming Hua (minghua)]

On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 01:12:05PM -0000, Ikuya Awashiro wrote:
> > Maybe something needs to be changed by the actual Japanese input method module (scim-anthy?)?
> No.
> see [scim-setup] - [Panel] - [GTK] - [Input window] - [Vertical lookup table]

I see. We also seem to have an configure option in /etc/scim/config:
    /Panel/Gtk/LookupTableVertical = false

So all Japanese input method would prefer a vertical candidate table?
It seems we need to find some way to change scim's default configuration
according to the locale or the preferred IM module.

Ming
2007.05.15

[Ikuya Awashiro (ikuya-fruitsbasket)]

>maybe we can patch scim, and let it know which module it ussing
s/ussing/using/ ?
Yes, we use scim-anthy in Japanese by default.

>So all Japanese input method would prefer a vertical candidate table?
Exactly.

[Jun Kobayashi (jkbys)]

Hi folks, thanks for your help.

> I see. We also seem to have an configure option in /etc/scim/config:
> /Panel/Gtk/LookupTableVertical = false
>
> So all Japanese input method would prefer a vertical candidate table?

I think almost all Japanese input method must prefer the vertical table.

> It seems we need to find some way to change scim's default configuration
> according to the locale or the preferred IM module.

I agree.

I subscribed Takuro Ashie, the developer of scim-anthy. He may have ideas
for this problem.

Ashie-san, could you check this bug and tell us your opinion?

[Takuro Ashie (ashie)]

Hi.

I'm sorry for late response.

>So all Japanese input method would prefer a vertical candidate table?

All Janapanese input methods on MS-Windows uses vertical lookup table.

In Fedora's package, some default hotkeys are switched automatically according to current locale.

http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/devel/scim/?root=core
http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/devel/scim/scim-system-config?root=core&rev=1.2&view=auto
http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/devel/scim/initial-locale-hotkey-186861.patch?root=core&rev=1.5&view=auto

Although this patch isn't good solution, we also need similar mechanism for direction of lookup table.

Anyway, these problem should be fixed at upstream (including the hotkey issue).
I'll report it to upstream's ML.
Let's continue our discussion at there.

[Ming Hua (minghua)]

This bug can be confirmed. However substantial changes from upstream are needed to achieve language-specific table layout, therefore setting as wishlist.

[Rolf Leggewie (r0lf)]

Is there an upstream task for this?

[Rolf Leggewie (r0lf)]

There is now ;-)

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3408453&group_id=108454&atid=650539