dependency irritations when installing rarian-compat

[Shirish Agarwal]

My only issue is the messages which came when I was installing
rarian-compat or while I was removing rarian-compat. The messages I
felt were invasive and creates doubt in the mind of the user.

 sudo aptitude install rarian-compat
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  rarian-compat
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  scrollkeeper{a}
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 197 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/102kB of archives. After unpacking 3400kB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] Y
Writing extended state information... Done
dpkg: scrollkeeper: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you request:
 ubuntu-docs depends on scrollkeeper; however:
  Package scrollkeeper is to be removed.
  Package rarian-compat which provides scrollkeeper is not installed.
 zenity depends on rarian-compat | scrollkeeper; however:
  Package rarian-compat is not installed.
  Package scrollkeeper is to be removed.
  Package rarian-compat which provides scrollkeeper is not installed.
 gnome-panel-data depends on scrollkeeper; however:
  Package scrollkeeper is to be removed.
  Package rarian-compat which provides scrollkeeper is not installed.
 gnome-utils depends on scrollkeeper; however:
  Package scrollkeeper is to be removed.
  Package rarian-compat which provides scrollkeeper is not installed.
 ubuntu-desktop depends on scrollkeeper; however:
  Package scrollkeeper is to be removed.
  Package rarian-compat which provides scrollkeeper is not installed.
 gnome-applets-data depends on scrollkeeper; however:
  Package scrollkeeper is to be removed.
  Package rarian-compat which provides scrollkeeper is not installed.
 gucharmap depends on scrollkeeper; however:
  Package scrollkeeper is to be removed.
  Package rarian-compat which provides scrollkeeper is not installed.
 xubuntu-desktop depends on scrollkeeper; however:
  Package scrollkeeper is to be removed.
  Package rarian-compat which provides scrollkeeper is not installed.
 bug-buddy depends on scrollkeeper; however:
  Package scrollkeeper is to be removed.
  Package rarian-compat which provides scrollkeeper is not installed.
 synaptic depends on scrollkeeper; however:
  Package scrollkeeper is to be removed.
  Package rarian-compat which provides scrollkeeper is not installed.
 nautilus-data depends on scrollkeeper; however:
  Package scrollkeeper is to be removed.
  Package rarian-compat which provides scrollkeeper is not installed.
 doc-base depends on scrollkeeper; however:
  Package scrollkeeper is to be removed.
  Package rarian-compat which provides scrollkeeper is not installed.
 gedit depends on scrollkeeper; however:
  Package scrollkeeper is to be removed.
  Package rarian-compat which provides scrollkeeper is not installed.
 capplets-data depends on scrollkeeper; however:
  Package scrollkeeper is to be removed.
  Package rarian-compat which provides scrollkeeper is not installed.
 gnome-system-monitor depends on scrollkeeper; however:
  Package scrollkeeper is to be removed.
  Package rarian-compat which provides scrollkeeper is not installed.
 gnome-user-guide depends on scrollkeeper; however:
  Package scrollkeeper is to be removed.
  Package rarian-compat which provides scrollkeeper is not installed.
 gnome-terminal depends on scrollkeeper; however:
  Package scrollkeeper is to be removed.
  Package rarian-compat which provides scrollkeeper is not installed.
(Reading database ... 122908 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing scrollkeeper ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Selecting previously deselected package rarian-compat.
(Reading database ... 122653 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking rarian-compat (from .../rarian-compat_0.8.1-1ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...
Setting up rarian-compat (0.8.1-1ubuntu1) ...

ProblemType: Bug
Architecture: i386
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 8.10
Package: rarian-compat 0.8.1-1ubuntu1
ProcEnviron:
 SHELL=/bin/bash
 PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
 LANG=en_IN
SourcePackage: rarian
Uname: Linux 2.6.24-16-generic i686

[Joel (glatapoui)]

I had the same problem, and I saw that there was a topic on the forum [1] of a man that tried to install it directly. He had other problems then, but this could be a solution ?...

[1] http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=945491

[Jean-Baptiste Lallement (jibel)]

Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. Could you please attach the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade to this bug report?

This is likely a dup of bug 256131

[Shirish Agarwal (shirishag75)]

Jean, there's the report and yes most probably but I cannot make that decision.

[Jean-Baptiste Lallement (jibel)]

Thanks. There's no evidence of what has failed is this log. Can you please attach the file /var/log/apt/term.log . You need to have root privileges in order to read that file.

Thanks in advance.

[Jean-Baptiste Lallement (jibel)]

Shirish, I'm sorry but I'm not sure to understand what the problem is here. Is it that scrollkeeper is removed when you're installing rarian-compat and can't install both ?

[Shirish Agarwal (shirishag75)]

hi Jean,
  I know that rarian-compat and scrollkeeper conflict with one another
as they provide the same service. I also realized the the upstream of
scrollkeeper isn't maintained hence ubuntu is thinking or using
rarian-compat and I see no problem with that as well.

My only issue is the messages which came when I was installing
rarian-compat or while I was removing rarian-compat. The messages I
felt were invasive and creates doubt in the mind of the user.

Something like :-

Package scrollkeeper is to be removed.
 Package rarian-compat which provides scrollkeeper is not installed.
 zenity depends on rarian-compat | scrollkeeper; however:
 Package rarian-compat is not installed.
 Package scrollkeeper is to be removed.

now if you look at the message itself, its misleading for I was
installing rarian-compat while it says

Package rarian-compat which provides scrollkeeper is not installed.

Also let's say even if I was uninstalling just scollkeeper the message
could have been user-friendly saying something like should I install
rarian-compat for you if you deinstalling/removing/purging
scrollkeeper or vice-versa.

The message itself makes me nervous. Hope I'm clearer this time around :)
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          Shirish Agarwal
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[Jean-Baptiste Lallement (jibel)]

Thank you for the clarification Shirish.
I'm confirming this report and I'll let the developers handle it from there.

Thanks for taking the time to make Ubuntu better!

[Pedro Villavicencio (pedro)]

Thanks for the report Shirish Agarwal , It has been a long time without any comment or a duplicate in this bug report and It is possible that the bug has been fixed. May you please try to reproduce it with the latest Stable Release of Ubuntu the Natty Narwhal and add the respective comments to the report? You can learn how to get that release at http://www.ubuntu.com/download . Thanks again and we appreciate your help.