PulseAudio needs to be removed from being initialized by default

Bug #352164 reported by Craig A. Eddy on 2009-03-31
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This bug affects 1 person
Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
pulseaudio (Ubuntu)
Wishlist
Daniel T Chen

Bug Description

PROBLEM: PulseAudio is unable to determine basic information about my sound system, despite the fact that the information is readily available.

System is a Dell Inspiron 530N
Processor - Intel Core2, 1.60GHz
Memory - 1 Gig
Video Card - NVidia GeForce 7300LE
Sound Card - Intel 82801I (ICH 9 family) HD Audio Controller
Operating System: Ubuntu 9.04 Beta (Jaunty Jackalope)
Linux Kernel - 2.6.28-11-generic
This system is up-to-date with package updates as of March 30, 2009, 10:54 PM Mountain Standard Time (UTC -7), or April 1, 2009, 05:00 UTC

This card is capable of AT LEAST 44100 Hz sampling and AT LEAST 5.1 Surround Sound. Yet what I get from PulseAudio (via the system log) is:

Mar 30 16:18:51 tyche-jaunty pulseaudio[3270]: alsa-util.c: Device hw:1 doesn't support 44100 Hz, changed to 22050 Hz.
Mar 30 16:18:51 tyche-jaunty pulseaudio[3270]: alsa-util.c: Device hw:1 doesn't support 2 channels, changed to 1.

This is an unacceptable situation, made worse by the fact that it takes extraordinary measures to turn off PulseAudio so that Alsa (which IS installed) can do its job. Monaural sound, to someone listening to serious, Classical music is unacceptable. Installing PulseAudio and initializing it by default is a regression of ability. Installing it and initializing it by default then hiding any ability to kill it is Microsoft style thinking. We are supposed to be better than that.

SOLUTION: Stop initializing PulseAudio by default. If people want to install it and use it, it should be a choice.

Minor correction. Time correction is 05:54 UTC.

affects: ubuntu → pulseaudio (Ubuntu)
Daniel T Chen (crimsun) wrote :

It would be useful to know what other card is being detected in your system. Please run http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh explicitly as a bash script, and attach the output here.

Changed in pulseaudio (Ubuntu):
status: New → Incomplete

Daniel, Thank you for your suggestion. There is only one sound card in this computer. as for the bash script, I downloaded it and ran it as suggested, and the end result of what I got was:

craig@tyche-jaunty:~/Documents$ sh alsa-info.sh
alsa-info.sh: 298: [[: not found
ALSA Information Script v 0.4.56
--------------------------------

This script will collect information about your ALSA installation and sound related hardware, to help diagnose your problem.

alsa-info.sh: 298: [[: not found
By default, the collected information will be AUTOMATICALLY uploaded to a www.alsa-project.org site.
If you do not wish for this to occur, run the script with the --no-upload argument

Do you want to run this script? [y/n] : read: 298: Illegal option -e

Thank you for using the ALSA-Info Script
craig@tyche-jaunty:~/Documents$ sh alsa-info.sh --no-upload
alsa-info.sh: 298: [[: not found
ALSA Information Script v 0.4.56
--------------------------------

This script will collect information about your ALSA installation and sound related hardware, to help diagnose your problem.

Do you want to run this script? [y/n] : read: 298: Illegal option -e

Thank you for using the ALSA-Info Script
craig@tyche-jaunty:~/Documents$

In other words, there's an error in the script.

Daniel T Chen (crimsun) wrote :

craig@tyche-jaunty:~/Documents$ sh alsa-info.sh <-- invoked using /bin/sh, which is a symlink to dash, not bash

Daniel, Attached is the file you requested.

Oh, and BTW, considering the extreme lack of knowledge/experience I have with shell commands, I had no idea that it was NOT a bash command.

Javier Jardón (jjardon) on 2009-04-01
Changed in pulseaudio:
status: Incomplete → New
Daniel T Chen (crimsun) wrote :

Craig, please inspect the following from your alsa-info.sh output:

!!Soundcards recognised by ALSA
!!-----------------------------

 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
                      HDA Intel at 0xfdff4000 irq 22
 1 [Camera ]: USB-Audio - Camera
                      Camera at usb-0000:00:1d.0-2, full speed

The above clearly indicates that you have two recognised audio devices in your system. What you've experienced is likely a combination of bug 234412 and bug 346753.

Changed in pulseaudio (Ubuntu):
assignee: nobody → crimsun
importance: Undecided → Wishlist
Daniel T Chen (crimsun) wrote :

Re-reading your description, I'm not sure I understand your actual bug report. Is your complaint that the output from PulseAudio's logging does not clearly denote which card is which, or is your complaint that multichannel sound does not work by default?

description: updated
Randall Ross (randall) wrote :

It appears to me that the original issue reports a failure of PulseAudio to route sound to the correct hardware. There is a USB webcam detected (see comment #6). The original reporter does not want his sound routed to that device, understandably.

Daniel T Chen (crimsun) wrote :

I'm closing this bug, because it has been more than six months since I last requested information, and none has been forthcoming.

Furthermore, the description given in the original report indicates a confusion between the primary on-board sound device and the webcam. This reason alone is sufficient to close this bug report.

Changed in pulseaudio (Ubuntu):
status: New → Invalid
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