Hardy x64 on AMD Turion not CPU scaling properly

Bug #231534 reported by clickwir
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Bug Description

Binary package hint: powernowd

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4984309#post4984309

I don't know if this is a powernowd problem or a kernel problem. Feel free to change it.

clickwir@lappy:~$ sudo modprobe powernow-k8
FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k8 (/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko): No such device

clickwir@lappy:~$ sudo modprobe acpi-cpufreq
FATAL: Error inserting acpi_cpufreq (/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.ko): No such device

clickwir@lappy:~$ uname -a
Linux lappy 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 12:47:45 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux

clickwir@lappy:~$ sudo powernowd
powernowd: PowerNow Daemon v0.97, (c) 2003-2006 John Clemens
powernowd: Found 1 scalable unit: -- 1 'CPU' per scalable unit
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq: No such file or directory

clickwir@lappy:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 36
model name : AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology MT-37
stepping : 2
cpu MHz : 2000.064
cache size : 1024 KB
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow up rep_good pni lahf_lm
bogomips : 4002.15
TLB size : 1024 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc

clickwir@lappy:~$ lsb_release -rd
Description: Ubuntu 8.04
Release: 8.04

clickwir@lappy:~$ sudo apt-cache policy powernowd
[sudo] password for clickwir:
powernowd:
  Installed: 0.97-2ubuntu4
  Candidate: 0.97-2ubuntu4
  Version table:
 *** 0.97-2ubuntu4 0
        500 http://ubuntu.mirror.frontiernet.net hardy/main Packages
        500 http://mirrors.rit.edu hardy/main Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

CPU frequency scaling works fine on the same laptop in Win XP and it worked on previous versions of Kubuntu as well.

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clickwir (clickwir) wrote : Re: Hardy 64 on AMD Turion not CPU scaling properly

Crap, sorry. Title should have been 64bit or x64 not, 65.

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janl (janl) wrote : No CPU scaling on AMD

I was just looking at different things on my media box and noticed that there is no cpufreq at all. My media box runs Gutsy. I know it worked under Feisty.

# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 107
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+
stepping : 2
cpu MHz : 1004.631
cache size : 512 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 2
core id : 0
cpu cores : 2
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy 3dnowprefetch ts fid vid ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps
bogomips : 2011.60
clflush size : 64

processor : 1
...

# modprobe cpufreq-nforce2
FATAL: Error inserting cpufreq_nforce2 (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/cpufreq-nforce2.ko): No such device
# modprobe powernow-k8
FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k8 (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko): No such device
# modprobe acpi-cpufreq
FATAL: Error inserting acpi_cpufreq (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.ko): No such device

# /etc/munin/plugins/cpuspeed
awk: cmd. line:3: fatal: cannot open file `/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats/time_in_state' for reading (No such file or directory)

# cd /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0
# ls -la
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 0 2008-05-18 12:54 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 0 2008-05-18 12:55 ..
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 0 2008-05-10 21:26 cache
-r-------- 1 root root 4096 2008-05-18 12:54 crash_notes
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 2008-05-18 12:55 topology

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janl (janl) wrote : Re: Hardy 65 on AMD Turion not CPU scaling properly

This is a kernel problem as the modules for cpu scaling does not recognize the cpu.

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clickwir (clickwir) wrote :

Have a link to a bug for that?

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clickwir (clickwir) wrote :

Update: Just updated to latest kernel. I know, I saw the change log, there wasn't anything addressing this issue, but I've upgraded anyway.

clickwir@lappy:~$ sudo modprobe powernow-k8
FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k8 (/lib/modules/2.6.24-18-generic/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko): No such device
clickwir@lappy:~$ sudo modprobe acpi-cpufreq
FATAL: Error inserting acpi_cpufreq (/lib/modules/2.6.24-18-generic/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.ko): No such device
clickwir@lappy:~$ uname -a
Linux lappy 2.6.24-18-generic #1 SMP Wed May 28 19:28:38 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
clickwir@lappy:~$ sudo powernowd
powernowd: PowerNow Daemon v0.97, (c) 2003-2006 John Clemens
powernowd: Found 1 scalable unit: -- 1 'CPU' per scalable unit
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq: No such file or directory

PowerNowd encountered and error and could not start.
Please make sure that:
 - You are running a v2.6.7 kernel or later
 - That you have sysfs mounted /sys
 - That you have the core cpufreq and cpufreq-userspace
   modules loaded into your kernel
 - That you have the cpufreq driver for your cpu loaded,
   (for example: powernow-k7), and that it works. Check
   'dmesg' for errors.
If all of the above are true, and you still have problems,
please email the author: <email address hidden>
clickwir@lappy:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 36
model name : AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology MT-37
stepping : 2
cpu MHz : 2000.065
cache size : 1024 KB
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow up rep_good pni lahf_lm
bogomips : 4002.20
TLB size : 1024 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc

clickwir@lappy:~$ lsb_release -rd
Description: Ubuntu 8.04
Release: 8.04
clickwir@lappy:~$ sudo apt-cache policy powernowd
powernowd:
  Installed: 0.97-2ubuntu4
  Candidate: 0.97-2ubuntu4
  Version table:
 *** 0.97-2ubuntu4 0
        500 http://ubuntu.mirror.frontiernet.net hardy/main Packages
        500 http://mirrors.rit.edu hardy/main Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Please. What else can I post up that can help? I don't know jack about programming or how to fix this, so I am relying on someone smarter. I just need you to tell me what I need to give you.

clickwir (clickwir)
Changed in linux-meta:
assignee: nobody → kernel-bugs
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clickwir (clickwir) wrote :

Just updated to latest kernel again. No change.

clickwir@lappy:~$ sudo modprobe powernow-k8
FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k8 (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko): No such device
clickwir@lappy:~$ sudo modprobe acpi-cpufreq
FATAL: Error inserting acpi_cpufreq (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.ko): No such device
clickwir@lappy:~$ uname -a
Linux lappy 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Jun 4 15:10:52 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
clickwir@lappy:~$ sudo powernowd
powernowd: PowerNow Daemon v0.97, (c) 2003-2006 John Clemens
powernowd: Found 1 scalable unit: -- 1 'CPU' per scalable unit
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq: No such file or directory

PowerNowd encountered and error and could not start.
Please make sure that:
 - You are running a v2.6.7 kernel or later
 - That you have sysfs mounted /sys
 - That you have the core cpufreq and cpufreq-userspace
   modules loaded into your kernel
 - That you have the cpufreq driver for your cpu loaded,
   (for example: powernow-k7), and that it works. Check
   'dmesg' for errors.
If all of the above are true, and you still have problems,
please email the author: <email address hidden>
clickwir@lappy:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 36
model name : AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology MT-37
stepping : 2
cpu MHz : 2000.063
cache size : 1024 KB
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow up rep_good pni lahf_lm
bogomips : 4002.25
TLB size : 1024 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc

clickwir@lappy:~$ lsb_release -rd
Description: Ubuntu 8.04.1
Release: 8.04.1
clickwir@lappy:~$ sudo apt-cache policy powernowd
powernowd:
  Installed: 0.97-2ubuntu4
  Candidate: 0.97-2ubuntu4
  Version table:
 *** 0.97-2ubuntu4 0
        500 http://ubuntu.mirror.frontiernet.net hardy/main Packages
        500 http://mirrors.rit.edu hardy/main Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

sudo modprobe powernow-k8
sudo modprobe acpi-cpufreq
uname -a
sudo powernowd
cat /proc/cpuinfo
lsb_release -rd
sudo apt-cache policy powernowd

Any ideas?

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Johannes Ballé (jballe) wrote :

When you do "sudo modprobe powernow-k8", do you get any messages in /var/log/syslog?

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clickwir (clickwir) wrote :

Not much useful..... but here you go.

clickwir@lappy:~$ sudo modprobe powernow-k8
FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k8 (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko): No such device

And here's the only line in "tail" that shows anything about powernow, the rest are about DHCP.

Jun 23 20:10:07 lappy kernel: [ 533.741910] powernow-k8: Found 1 AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology MT-37 processors (1 cpu cores) (version 2.20.00)

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clickwir (clickwir) wrote :

Wow, it would have been useful to post the info you ACTUALLY requested. Let me try that again....

clickwir@lappy:~$ sudo modprobe powernow-k8
FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k8 (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko): No such device
clickwir@lappy:~$ tail /var/log/syslog
Jun 26 20:55:00 lappy kernel: [ 437.347340] wlan0: switched to short barker preamble (BSSID=00:18:39:XX:b7:XX)
Jun 26 20:55:25 lappy kernel: [ 462.693839] APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
Jun 26 20:55:49 lappy kernel: [ 486.456213] APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
Jun 26 20:55:54 lappy kernel: [ 491.208715] wlan0: switched to long barker preamble (BSSID=00:18:39:XX:b7:XX)
Jun 26 20:55:57 lappy kernel: [ 494.224334] powernow-k8: Found 1 AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology MT-37 processors (1 cpu cores) (version 2.20.00)
Jun 26 20:55:57 lappy kernel: [ 494.227246] powernow-k8: BIOS error - no PSB or ACPI _PSS objects
Jun 26 20:56:00 lappy kernel: [ 497.405975] powernow-k8: Found 1 AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology MT-37 processors (1 cpu cores) (version 2.20.00)
Jun 26 20:56:00 lappy kernel: [ 497.408962] powernow-k8: BIOS error - no PSB or ACPI _PSS objects
Jun 26 20:56:02 lappy kernel: [ 499.594006] APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
Jun 26 20:56:05 lappy kernel: [ 502.297821] wlan0: switched to short barker preamble (BSSID=00:18:39:XX:b7:XX)

clickwir (clickwir)
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assignee: nobody → ubuntu-kernel-team
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clickwir (clickwir) wrote :

clickwir@lappy:~$ cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/info
processor id: 0
acpi id: 0
bus mastering control: yes
power management: yes
throttling control: no
limit interface: no
clickwir@lappy:~$ cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/limit
<not supported>
clickwir@lappy:~$ cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/power
active state: C0
max_cstate: C8
bus master activity: 00000000
maximum allowed latency: 8000 usec
states:
    C1: type[C1] promotion[--] demotion[--] latency[000] usage[01542817] duration[00000000000000000000]
    C2: type[C2] promotion[--] demotion[--] latency[099] usage[66624824] duration[00000000000730552123]
    C3: type[C3] promotion[--] demotion[--] latency[999] usage[00000053] duration[00000000000000000708]
clickwir@lappy:~$ cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/throttling
<not supported>
clickwir@lappy:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 760/M760 Host (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SG86C202
00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS963 [MuTIOL Media IO] (rev 25)
00:02.1 SMBus: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS961/2 SMBus Controller
00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE]
00:02.6 Modem: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Modem Controller (rev a0)
00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)
00:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 2.0 Controller
00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 91)
00:06.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1510 PC card Cardbus Controller
00:0b.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter

What else? Who needs some info? There's lots here, there's got to be something useful here.

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Sergey V. Udaltsov (sergey-udaltsov) wrote :

Similar but not exactly same here, with Core2 CPU T5600/1.83GHz.
/proc/cpuinfo says "power management:" (empty)
/proc/acpi/processor/CPU*/info says "power management: no".

No ACPI errors in dmesg

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clickwir (clickwir) wrote :

Sorry to report that the latest upgrade to 2.6.24-20 still has the same issue.

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Johannes Ballé (jballe) wrote :

Check this:

http://osdir.com/ml/kernel.cpufreq/2006-02/msg00040.html

Have you tried upgrading your BIOS?

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clickwir (clickwir) wrote :

The BIOS version available on the mfgr's website is actually older than what mine came with. Well I should say, at least a higher number. I've emailed Acer about this a couple times... they tell me there are no updates to my installed version. It must not be a released version.

Acer Aspire 3004 WLCi

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thegnark (thegnark) wrote :

Same problem here:

processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 17
model : 3
model name : AMD Turion(tm) X2 Ultra Dual-Core Mobile ZM-86
stepping : 1
cpu MHz : 2399.001
cache size : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 2
core id : 0
cpu cores : 2
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch osvw skinit
bogomips : 4792.56
TLB size : 1024 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate

processor : 1
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 17
model : 3
model name : AMD Turion(tm) X2 Ultra Dual-Core Mobile ZM-86
stepping : 1
cpu MHz : 2399.001
cache size : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 2
core id : 1
cpu cores : 2
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch osvw skinit
bogomips : 4798.31
TLB size : 1024 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate

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clickwir (clickwir) wrote :

Upgraded....

clickwir@lappy:~$ uname -a
Linux lappy 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Tue Aug 12 13:03:01 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
clickwir@lappy:~$ sudo modprobe powernow-k8
FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k8 (/lib/modules/2.6.24-21-generic/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko): No such device
clickwir@lappy:~$ sudo modprobe acpi-cpufreq
FATAL: Error inserting acpi_cpufreq (/lib/modules/2.6.24-21-generic/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.ko): No such device

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Arceliar (littlebuzz71) wrote :

Same problem here on a 64bit hardy install with an AMD Sempron processor (family 15).

If nobody has checked yet, I'll probably try doing a 32bit install and see if that kernel's module recognizes the hardware properly (I get the feeling it does, else there'd probably be more bug reports, but that's just a guess).

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thegnark (thegnark) wrote :

Found a post on the forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=844754) which seemed to remedy the problem by using kernel 2.6.26.1 and editing /etc/init.d/loadcpufreq or manually loading powernow-k8

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Leann Ogasawara (leannogasawara) wrote :

The Ubuntu Kernel Team is planning to move to the 2.6.27 kernel for the upcoming Intrepid Ibex 8.10 release. As a result, the kernel team would appreciate it if you could please test this newer 2.6.27 Ubuntu kernel. There are one of two ways you should be able to test:

1) If you are comfortable installing packages on your own, the linux-image-2.6.27-* package is currently available for you to install and test.

--or--

2) The upcoming Alpha5 for Intrepid Ibex 8.10 will contain this newer 2.6.27 Ubuntu kernel. Alpha5 is set to be released Thursday Sept 4. Please watch http://www.ubuntu.com/testing for Alpha5 to be announced. You should then be able to test via a LiveCD.

Please let us know immediately if this newer 2.6.27 kernel resolves the bug reported here or if the issue remains. More importantly, please open a new bug report for each new bug/regression introduced by the 2.6.27 kernel and tag the bug report with 'linux-2.6.27'. Also, please specifically note if the issue does or does not appear in the 2.6.26 kernel. Thanks again, we really appreicate your help and feedback.

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clickwir (clickwir) wrote :

clickwir@lappy:~$ sudo modprobe powernow-k8
FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k8 (/lib/modules/2.6.27-1-generic/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko): No such device
clickwir@lappy:~$ sudo modprobe acpi-cpufreq
FATAL: Error inserting acpi_cpufreq (/lib/modules/2.6.27-1-generic/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.ko): No such device
clickwir@lappy:~$ uname -a
Linux lappy 2.6.27-1-generic #1 SMP Sat Aug 23 23:19:01 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Didn't work for me. Note, I just added a few intrepid repos and then
updated anything just related to 2.6.27 and it's supporting modules.

My Intel wireless Pro/2200BG works fine, automatically picked up and
connected to the network. Seems to be just fine, just no cpu scaling
going on. This is an Acer Aspire 3004 laptop.

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Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote : Kernel team bugs

Per a decision made by the Ubuntu Kernel Team, bugs will longer be assigned to the ubuntu-kernel-team in Launchpad as part of the bug triage process. The ubuntu-kernel-team is being unassigned from this bug report. Refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies for more information. Thanks.

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fusion (jlopez2022) wrote :

I have the same problem.
I have an Acer 6530 with AMD turion ultra 7M-80

Whentriying to run ubuntu from live CD, it freezes when loading powernowd service. (I think is a new amd not supported yet)

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David Gaarenstroom (david-gaarenstroom) wrote :

As for the *original* bugreport, this dmesg output:

Jun 26 20:55:57 lappy kernel: [ 494.227246] powernow-k8: BIOS error - no PSB or ACPI _PSS objects

Tells me that your BIOS is broken. This cannot be fixed by the Linux kernel.

Please verify whether there is a more recent BIOS for your system, perhaps your manufacturer has already released a fix. If not, you could request them to do that. Also, perhaps there's a custom ACPI "DSDT" for your system available for Linux that provides a PSB or _PSS table. There are some HOWTO's available that will help you do that.
It could also be that a BIOS option is blocking the PSB or _PSS objects, something in the line of "intelligent power managment" or so. My Asrock motherboard has such an option, I don't remember what it is called.

(I'm not immediately switching the status of this bugreport to "Invalid" as I will wait for your feedback first)

As for all the noise in this bugreport, please fill in your own bug reports...

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David Gaarenstroom (david-gaarenstroom) wrote :

This is definitely not powernowd related

Changed in powernowd:
status: New → Invalid
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clickwir (clickwir) wrote :

Yes, a BIOS update was my first thought. Unfortunatly this is an older model and Acer hasn't released an update for years, I doubt they will any time soon.

All I know is that Windows scales fine. I will probably end up getting rid of this laptop instead of trying to get it working, I already have a replacement. Really, the only reason I kept it around was to help provide info for bug reporting. It's taking up space and I could use the money... not that I'd get much.

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David Gaarenstroom (david-gaarenstroom) wrote :

I can't seem to find what Acer you are using?! My Acer Aspire 5024WLMi should be older, with a Turion ML-34, but its BIOS is fine. Remember that either a PSB or _PSS object is required for Windows 2000 to work!

(Offtopic: I'm actually the writer of the Linux-PHC (Processor Hardware Control) phc-k8 driver and I think I can adapt the phc-k8 driver somewhere in the future to "guess" a powerstate table, without any ACPI usage whatsoever. I may need your help for testing it when it's ready... Maybe (then) I'll even succeed in getting it merged into the vanilla Linux kernel.)

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clickwir (clickwir) wrote :

It's an Acer Aspire 3000WLCi.

We have another one in the family that is of the 5000 series and it appears (according to what I can see in the BIOS and on Acer's website) that they use the same BIOS file.

I'm sorry I don't know what PSB or _PSS's are. But what else can I do to help?

I have latest Jaunty on it right now, but the wireless isn't working because it doesn't seem to support WPA2, just WPA.

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David Gaarenstroom (david-gaarenstroom) wrote :

The Acer Aspire 3000WLCi doesn't seem to come with a Turion ML37, but with a Sempron. Perhaps that's why your BIOS doesn't support it properly? What BIOS version are you using, version "3A32"? Perhaps you can try the "Vista" BIOS as well.

Either PSB or _PSS is required to be present in your BIOS information for Linux frequency scaling to work (if it isn't defined in another way). I just meant that Windows 2000 won't work either if neither are present in your BIOS (ACPI) information.

The Aspire 30xx and Aspire 50xx indeed seem to be alike (and I know for certain 302x and 502x are in fact identical) and there may be a Ferrari notebook that is identical as well, except for its casing. However, I wouldn't know which one is. But the Ferrari's are better and longer supported.

At tuxmobile.org no-one mentions any difficulty with the frequency-scaling of this notebook. Have you tried other Linux distributions/live-CD's? I suspect the Turion is just not supported by the BIOS.

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kernel-janitor (kernel-janitor) wrote :

Closing the "linux-meta (Ubuntu)" task as this is already appropriately assigned to the "linux (Ubuntu)" task. Thanks.

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kernel-janitor (kernel-janitor) wrote :

Hi clickwir,

Please be sure to confirm this issue exists with the latest development release of Ubuntu. ISO CD images are available from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/ . Please then run following command from a Terminal (Applications->Accessories->Terminal). It will automatically gather and attach updated debug information to this report.

apport-collect -p linux-image-`uname -r` 231534

Also, if you could test the latest upstream kernel available that would be great. It will allow additional upstream developers to examine the issue. Refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMainlineBuilds . Once you've tested the upstream kernel, please remove the 'needs-upstream-testing' tag. This can be done by clicking on the yellow pencil icon next to the tag located at the bottom of the bug description and deleting the 'needs-upstream-testing' text. Please let us know your results.

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tags: added: needs-kernel-logs
tags: added: needs-upstream-testing
tags: added: kj-triage
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status: New → Incomplete
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clickwir (clickwir) wrote : apport-collect data

Architecture: i386
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10
HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=7b426345-d6ae-4532-85fd-05cf859e3681
Lsusb:
 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
 Bus 002 Device 002: ID 045e:0040 Microsoft Corp. Wheel Mouse Optical
 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
MachineType: Acer, inc. Aspire 3000
Package: linux-image-2.6.31-4-generic 2.6.31-4.22
PackageArchitecture: i386
ProcCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-4-generic root=UUID=fb0b97e2-d0a0-4c1c-8175-866e8f1f7b15 ro quiet splash
ProcEnviron:
 SHELL=/bin/bash
 LANG=en_US.UTF-8
 LANGUAGE=
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-4.22-generic
RelatedPackageVersions: linux-backports-modules-2.6.31-4-generic N/A
Uname: Linux 2.6.31-4-generic i686
UserGroups: adm admin cdrom dialout lpadmin netdev plugdev sambashare
dmi.bios.date: 02/20/06
dmi.bios.vendor: Acer
dmi.bios.version: 3A32
dmi.board.name: Lugano M
dmi.board.vendor: Acer, Inc.
dmi.board.version: Not Applicable
dmi.chassis.type: 1
dmi.chassis.vendor: , Inc.
dmi.chassis.version: N/A
dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnAcer:bvr3A32:bd02/20/06:svnAcer,inc.:pnAspire3000:pvrNotApplicable:rvnAcer,Inc.:rnLuganoM:rvrNotApplicable:cvn,Inc.:ct1:cvrN/A:
dmi.product.name: Aspire 3000
dmi.product.version: Not Applicable
dmi.sys.vendor: Acer, inc.

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Changed in linux (Ubuntu):
status: Incomplete → New
tags: added: apport-collected
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tags: removed: needs-upstream-testing
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importance: Undecided → Medium
status: New → Triaged
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Jeremy Foshee (jeremyfoshee) wrote :

This bug report was marked as Triaged a while ago but has not had any updated comments for quite some time. Please let us know if this issue remains in the current Ubuntu release, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download . If the issue remains, click on the current status under the Status column and change the status back to "New". Thanks.

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Jeremy Foshee (jeremyfoshee) wrote :

This bug report was marked as Incomplete and has not had any updated comments for quite some time. As a result this bug is being closed. Please reopen if this is still an issue in the current Ubuntu release http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download . Also, please be sure to provide any requested information that may have been missing. To reopen the bug, click on the current status under the Status column and change the status back to "New". Thanks.

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tags: added: kj-expired
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assignee: Registry Administrators (registry) → nobody
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