Comment 50 for bug 562027

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JMFTheVCI (jmfthevci) wrote : Re: [ooo-build] OOo QuickStarter: unable to shutdown / reboot / logout when quickstarter is active

How big an impact this problem has related to how the Ubuntu user base is and how Linux/Unix experienced they are.
If Ubuntu is for the Linux/Unix savvy who know that they can open a terminal and "sudo shutdown" then fine we have a low impact.
If Ubuntu is pitched at all levels of user then, as has been discussed, the impact is much higher. Imagine the call for help "...I couldn't shutdown so I powered off and now I have lost files/filesystems...etc"

My issue with this is the *lack* of any messages. It may well be that Gnome is accepting the shutdown request and that OpenOffice is then cancelling the shutdown. The problem is that I never see any message from OO to tell me that it has cancelled the shutdown and why it cancelled it. Nothing happens and there is no explanation for why nothing happens.

Inexperienced or newbie Ubuntu users will just flounder and crash kill the system to power off. Not good and far too reminiscent of Microsoft. Ubuntu may be resillient against such harsh user actions but then what choice did they have?

I suspect that a large proportion of Ubuntu users, perhaps not a majority, are going to be annoyed by the lack of a simple and consistent shutdown request. As a seasoned, but by no means guru, ubuntu user I know how to fix it but my statement is that I should not *have* to fix it.

When I say shutdown I want it to do so or correctly tell me why it has not happened. Then tell me how to fix it.