Activity log for bug #1886333

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2020-07-05 16:55:13 teo1978 bug added bug
2020-07-05 16:56:46 teo1978 description Steps to reproduce: 1. open Nautilus 2. Select icons view 3. open Trash 4. try to switch to list view by clicking on the button on the top right Expected: should immediately switch to list mode. There's no acceptable valid reason for this to be slow, since it is possible to make it efficient enough to make it quick. If, for whatever valid reason, it did require a perceivable amount of time, you should see a spinning icon somewhere giving you visual feedback that something is being processed (and you should be able to instantly go back to icons mode) Observed: it remains in icons mode as if you hadn't clicked anything (despite the fact that the list mode button becomes apparently selected). I have no idea whether it simply ignores you and doesn't switch to list mode without any error message, or if it's actually processing and taking long because Nautilus sucks and is slow and inefficient, but gives no visual feedback that it's processing something. But it doesn't end here: 4. Close Nautilus and open it again 5. Switch to list mode BEFORE you open trash (succesfully switches) 6. Open Trash => Now the Trash appears empty, even though it's not. Again, no idea whether it's loading and taking long: there's no indication of it. 7. Try to switch back to icon mode: => goes back to the folder you were browsing before, and does switch to icons mode. It's all a fucking mess - something is way slower than it should - the UI seems to be designed around the (never correct and in this case false) assumption that everything happens instantly, so there's no feedback when you need to wait because something is being loaded, and when that happens and you keep doing stuff, the behavior becomes inconsistent and everything goes completely berserk. This is fucking pathetic. And don't start with "You are using an old version of Ubuntu bla bla bla". I am using an old version because of an unrelated disgraceful regression in Nautilus itself which renders it completely unusable from Ubuntu 17.04 onward ana that to this day hasn't been fixed, of which luckily enough I became aware before I upgraded, so I stuck with 16.04. Furthermore, 16.04 is LTS and hasn't reached EOL yet, so bugs that render the system completely unusable like this one have to be fixed and the fix has to be released to 16.04. Anyway I don't give a fuck. I'm sick of Ubuntu and I'm switching to OpenSuse soon. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.04 Package: nautilus 1:3.18.4.is.3.14.3-0ubuntu6 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.4.0-184.214-generic 4.4.223 Uname: Linux 4.4.0-184-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_uvm nvidia ApportVersion: 2.20.1-0ubuntu2.23 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: Unity Date: Sun Jul 5 18:42:26 2020 GsettingsChanges: b'org.gnome.nautilus.window-state' b'sidebar-width' b'192' b'org.gnome.nautilus.window-state' b'geometry' b"'1161x849+533+136'" b'org.gnome.nautilus.list-view' b'use-tree-view' b'true' b'org.gnome.nautilus.list-view' b'default-column-order' b"['name', 'size', 'type', 'date_modified', 'date_accessed', 'owner', 'group', 'permissions', 'mime_type', 'where']" InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-10-11 (2458 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.04 "Raring Ringtail" - Release amd64 (20130424) SourcePackage: nautilus UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) Steps to reproduce: 1. open Nautilus 2. Select icons view 3. open Trash 4. try to switch to list view by clicking on the button on the top right Expected: should immediately switch to list mode. There's no acceptable valid reason for this to be slow, since it is possible to make it efficient enough to make it quick. If, for whatever valid reason, it did require a perceivable amount of time (which btw is an assumtion you should always make when designing the UI, because even a few milliseconds can be perceivable enough that visual feedback needs to be given and interaction can happen meanwhile), you should see a spinning icon somewhere giving you visual feedback that something is being processed (and you should be able to instantly go back to icons mode) Observed: it remains in icons mode as if you hadn't clicked anything (despite the fact that the list mode button becomes apparently selected). I have no idea whether it simply ignores you and doesn't switch to list mode without any error message, or if it's actually processing and taking long because Nautilus sucks and is slow and inefficient, but gives no visual feedback that it's processing something. But it doesn't end here: 4. Close Nautilus and open it again 5. Switch to list mode BEFORE you open trash (succesfully switches) 6. Open Trash => Now the Trash appears empty, even though it's not. Again, no idea whether it's loading and taking long: there's no indication of it. 7. Try to switch back to icon mode: => goes back to the folder you were browsing before, and does switch to icons mode. It's all a fucking mess - something is way slower than it should - the UI seems to be designed around the (never correct and in this case false) assumption that everything happens instantly, so there's no feedback when you need to wait because something is being loaded, and when that happens and you keep doing stuff, the behavior becomes inconsistent and everything goes completely berserk. This is fucking pathetic. And don't start with "You are using an old version of Ubuntu bla bla bla". I am using an old version because of an unrelated disgraceful regression in Nautilus itself which renders it completely unusable from Ubuntu 17.04 onward ana that to this day hasn't been fixed, of which luckily enough I became aware before I upgraded, so I stuck with 16.04. Furthermore, 16.04 is LTS and hasn't reached EOL yet, so bugs that render the system completely unusable like this one have to be fixed and the fix has to be released to 16.04. Anyway I don't give a fuck. I'm sick of Ubuntu and I'm switching to OpenSuse soon. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.04 Package: nautilus 1:3.18.4.is.3.14.3-0ubuntu6 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.4.0-184.214-generic 4.4.223 Uname: Linux 4.4.0-184-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_uvm nvidia ApportVersion: 2.20.1-0ubuntu2.23 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: Unity Date: Sun Jul 5 18:42:26 2020 GsettingsChanges:  b'org.gnome.nautilus.window-state' b'sidebar-width' b'192'  b'org.gnome.nautilus.window-state' b'geometry' b"'1161x849+533+136'"  b'org.gnome.nautilus.list-view' b'use-tree-view' b'true'  b'org.gnome.nautilus.list-view' b'default-column-order' b"['name', 'size', 'type', 'date_modified', 'date_accessed', 'owner', 'group', 'permissions', 'mime_type', 'where']" InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-10-11 (2458 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.04 "Raring Ringtail" - Release amd64 (20130424) SourcePackage: nautilus UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
2020-07-05 16:57:01 teo1978 description Steps to reproduce: 1. open Nautilus 2. Select icons view 3. open Trash 4. try to switch to list view by clicking on the button on the top right Expected: should immediately switch to list mode. There's no acceptable valid reason for this to be slow, since it is possible to make it efficient enough to make it quick. If, for whatever valid reason, it did require a perceivable amount of time (which btw is an assumtion you should always make when designing the UI, because even a few milliseconds can be perceivable enough that visual feedback needs to be given and interaction can happen meanwhile), you should see a spinning icon somewhere giving you visual feedback that something is being processed (and you should be able to instantly go back to icons mode) Observed: it remains in icons mode as if you hadn't clicked anything (despite the fact that the list mode button becomes apparently selected). I have no idea whether it simply ignores you and doesn't switch to list mode without any error message, or if it's actually processing and taking long because Nautilus sucks and is slow and inefficient, but gives no visual feedback that it's processing something. But it doesn't end here: 4. Close Nautilus and open it again 5. Switch to list mode BEFORE you open trash (succesfully switches) 6. Open Trash => Now the Trash appears empty, even though it's not. Again, no idea whether it's loading and taking long: there's no indication of it. 7. Try to switch back to icon mode: => goes back to the folder you were browsing before, and does switch to icons mode. It's all a fucking mess - something is way slower than it should - the UI seems to be designed around the (never correct and in this case false) assumption that everything happens instantly, so there's no feedback when you need to wait because something is being loaded, and when that happens and you keep doing stuff, the behavior becomes inconsistent and everything goes completely berserk. This is fucking pathetic. And don't start with "You are using an old version of Ubuntu bla bla bla". I am using an old version because of an unrelated disgraceful regression in Nautilus itself which renders it completely unusable from Ubuntu 17.04 onward ana that to this day hasn't been fixed, of which luckily enough I became aware before I upgraded, so I stuck with 16.04. Furthermore, 16.04 is LTS and hasn't reached EOL yet, so bugs that render the system completely unusable like this one have to be fixed and the fix has to be released to 16.04. Anyway I don't give a fuck. I'm sick of Ubuntu and I'm switching to OpenSuse soon. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.04 Package: nautilus 1:3.18.4.is.3.14.3-0ubuntu6 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.4.0-184.214-generic 4.4.223 Uname: Linux 4.4.0-184-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_uvm nvidia ApportVersion: 2.20.1-0ubuntu2.23 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: Unity Date: Sun Jul 5 18:42:26 2020 GsettingsChanges:  b'org.gnome.nautilus.window-state' b'sidebar-width' b'192'  b'org.gnome.nautilus.window-state' b'geometry' b"'1161x849+533+136'"  b'org.gnome.nautilus.list-view' b'use-tree-view' b'true'  b'org.gnome.nautilus.list-view' b'default-column-order' b"['name', 'size', 'type', 'date_modified', 'date_accessed', 'owner', 'group', 'permissions', 'mime_type', 'where']" InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-10-11 (2458 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.04 "Raring Ringtail" - Release amd64 (20130424) SourcePackage: nautilus UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) Steps to reproduce: 1. open Nautilus 2. Select icons view 3. open Trash 4. try to switch to list view by clicking on the button on the top right Expected: should immediately switch to list mode. There's no acceptable valid reason for this to be slow, since it is possible to make it efficient enough to make it quick. But if, for whatever valid reason, it did require a perceivable amount of time (which btw is an assumtion you should always make when designing the UI, because even a few milliseconds can be perceivable enough that visual feedback needs to be given and interaction can happen meanwhile), you should see a spinning icon somewhere giving you visual feedback that something is being processed (and you should be able to instantly go back to icons mode) Observed: it remains in icons mode as if you hadn't clicked anything (despite the fact that the list mode button becomes apparently selected). I have no idea whether it simply ignores you and doesn't switch to list mode without any error message, or if it's actually processing and taking long because Nautilus sucks and is slow and inefficient, but gives no visual feedback that it's processing something. But it doesn't end here: 4. Close Nautilus and open it again 5. Switch to list mode BEFORE you open trash (succesfully switches) 6. Open Trash => Now the Trash appears empty, even though it's not. Again, no idea whether it's loading and taking long: there's no indication of it. 7. Try to switch back to icon mode: => goes back to the folder you were browsing before, and does switch to icons mode. It's all a fucking mess - something is way slower than it should - the UI seems to be designed around the (never correct and in this case false) assumption that everything happens instantly, so there's no feedback when you need to wait because something is being loaded, and when that happens and you keep doing stuff, the behavior becomes inconsistent and everything goes completely berserk. This is fucking pathetic. And don't start with "You are using an old version of Ubuntu bla bla bla". I am using an old version because of an unrelated disgraceful regression in Nautilus itself which renders it completely unusable from Ubuntu 17.04 onward ana that to this day hasn't been fixed, of which luckily enough I became aware before I upgraded, so I stuck with 16.04. Furthermore, 16.04 is LTS and hasn't reached EOL yet, so bugs that render the system completely unusable like this one have to be fixed and the fix has to be released to 16.04. Anyway I don't give a fuck. I'm sick of Ubuntu and I'm switching to OpenSuse soon. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.04 Package: nautilus 1:3.18.4.is.3.14.3-0ubuntu6 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.4.0-184.214-generic 4.4.223 Uname: Linux 4.4.0-184-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_uvm nvidia ApportVersion: 2.20.1-0ubuntu2.23 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: Unity Date: Sun Jul 5 18:42:26 2020 GsettingsChanges:  b'org.gnome.nautilus.window-state' b'sidebar-width' b'192'  b'org.gnome.nautilus.window-state' b'geometry' b"'1161x849+533+136'"  b'org.gnome.nautilus.list-view' b'use-tree-view' b'true'  b'org.gnome.nautilus.list-view' b'default-column-order' b"['name', 'size', 'type', 'date_modified', 'date_accessed', 'owner', 'group', 'permissions', 'mime_type', 'where']" InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-10-11 (2458 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.04 "Raring Ringtail" - Release amd64 (20130424) SourcePackage: nautilus UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
2020-07-05 16:57:15 teo1978 description Steps to reproduce: 1. open Nautilus 2. Select icons view 3. open Trash 4. try to switch to list view by clicking on the button on the top right Expected: should immediately switch to list mode. There's no acceptable valid reason for this to be slow, since it is possible to make it efficient enough to make it quick. But if, for whatever valid reason, it did require a perceivable amount of time (which btw is an assumtion you should always make when designing the UI, because even a few milliseconds can be perceivable enough that visual feedback needs to be given and interaction can happen meanwhile), you should see a spinning icon somewhere giving you visual feedback that something is being processed (and you should be able to instantly go back to icons mode) Observed: it remains in icons mode as if you hadn't clicked anything (despite the fact that the list mode button becomes apparently selected). I have no idea whether it simply ignores you and doesn't switch to list mode without any error message, or if it's actually processing and taking long because Nautilus sucks and is slow and inefficient, but gives no visual feedback that it's processing something. But it doesn't end here: 4. Close Nautilus and open it again 5. Switch to list mode BEFORE you open trash (succesfully switches) 6. Open Trash => Now the Trash appears empty, even though it's not. Again, no idea whether it's loading and taking long: there's no indication of it. 7. Try to switch back to icon mode: => goes back to the folder you were browsing before, and does switch to icons mode. It's all a fucking mess - something is way slower than it should - the UI seems to be designed around the (never correct and in this case false) assumption that everything happens instantly, so there's no feedback when you need to wait because something is being loaded, and when that happens and you keep doing stuff, the behavior becomes inconsistent and everything goes completely berserk. This is fucking pathetic. And don't start with "You are using an old version of Ubuntu bla bla bla". I am using an old version because of an unrelated disgraceful regression in Nautilus itself which renders it completely unusable from Ubuntu 17.04 onward ana that to this day hasn't been fixed, of which luckily enough I became aware before I upgraded, so I stuck with 16.04. Furthermore, 16.04 is LTS and hasn't reached EOL yet, so bugs that render the system completely unusable like this one have to be fixed and the fix has to be released to 16.04. Anyway I don't give a fuck. I'm sick of Ubuntu and I'm switching to OpenSuse soon. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.04 Package: nautilus 1:3.18.4.is.3.14.3-0ubuntu6 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.4.0-184.214-generic 4.4.223 Uname: Linux 4.4.0-184-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_uvm nvidia ApportVersion: 2.20.1-0ubuntu2.23 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: Unity Date: Sun Jul 5 18:42:26 2020 GsettingsChanges:  b'org.gnome.nautilus.window-state' b'sidebar-width' b'192'  b'org.gnome.nautilus.window-state' b'geometry' b"'1161x849+533+136'"  b'org.gnome.nautilus.list-view' b'use-tree-view' b'true'  b'org.gnome.nautilus.list-view' b'default-column-order' b"['name', 'size', 'type', 'date_modified', 'date_accessed', 'owner', 'group', 'permissions', 'mime_type', 'where']" InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-10-11 (2458 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.04 "Raring Ringtail" - Release amd64 (20130424) SourcePackage: nautilus UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) Steps to reproduce: 1. open Nautilus 2. Select icons view 3. open Trash 4. try to switch to list view by clicking on the button on the top right Expected: should immediately switch to list mode. There's no acceptable valid reason for this to be slow. But if, for whatever valid reason, it did require a perceivable amount of time (which btw is an assumtion you should always make when designing the UI, because even a few milliseconds can be perceivable enough that visual feedback needs to be given and interaction can happen meanwhile), you should see a spinning icon somewhere giving you visual feedback that something is being processed (and you should be able to instantly go back to icons mode) Observed: it remains in icons mode as if you hadn't clicked anything (despite the fact that the list mode button becomes apparently selected). I have no idea whether it simply ignores you and doesn't switch to list mode without any error message, or if it's actually processing and taking long because Nautilus sucks and is slow and inefficient, but gives no visual feedback that it's processing something. But it doesn't end here: 4. Close Nautilus and open it again 5. Switch to list mode BEFORE you open trash (succesfully switches) 6. Open Trash => Now the Trash appears empty, even though it's not. Again, no idea whether it's loading and taking long: there's no indication of it. 7. Try to switch back to icon mode: => goes back to the folder you were browsing before, and does switch to icons mode. It's all a fucking mess - something is way slower than it should - the UI seems to be designed around the (never correct and in this case false) assumption that everything happens instantly, so there's no feedback when you need to wait because something is being loaded, and when that happens and you keep doing stuff, the behavior becomes inconsistent and everything goes completely berserk. This is fucking pathetic. And don't start with "You are using an old version of Ubuntu bla bla bla". I am using an old version because of an unrelated disgraceful regression in Nautilus itself which renders it completely unusable from Ubuntu 17.04 onward ana that to this day hasn't been fixed, of which luckily enough I became aware before I upgraded, so I stuck with 16.04. Furthermore, 16.04 is LTS and hasn't reached EOL yet, so bugs that render the system completely unusable like this one have to be fixed and the fix has to be released to 16.04. Anyway I don't give a fuck. I'm sick of Ubuntu and I'm switching to OpenSuse soon. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.04 Package: nautilus 1:3.18.4.is.3.14.3-0ubuntu6 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.4.0-184.214-generic 4.4.223 Uname: Linux 4.4.0-184-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_uvm nvidia ApportVersion: 2.20.1-0ubuntu2.23 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: Unity Date: Sun Jul 5 18:42:26 2020 GsettingsChanges:  b'org.gnome.nautilus.window-state' b'sidebar-width' b'192'  b'org.gnome.nautilus.window-state' b'geometry' b"'1161x849+533+136'"  b'org.gnome.nautilus.list-view' b'use-tree-view' b'true'  b'org.gnome.nautilus.list-view' b'default-column-order' b"['name', 'size', 'type', 'date_modified', 'date_accessed', 'owner', 'group', 'permissions', 'mime_type', 'where']" InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-10-11 (2458 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.04 "Raring Ringtail" - Release amd64 (20130424) SourcePackage: nautilus UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)