Can't open document

[Sebastien CELLES]

Hello,

I want to say that I ever send this bug and it was marked as closed (someone
said me that it's an OOo problem) but there is still a problem.
I have a Debian Sarge server with Samba share (some OpenOffice documents and
more...)
I want to use Ubuntu as a Desktop OS.
So I use Nautilus to browse my smb shares.
When I try to run smb://my_server/my_directory/my_file.sxw (an oowriter doc) it
fails
-> OpenOffice say me : /home/my_user/smb://my_server/my_directory/my_file.sxw
doesn't exist

The problem is same with a Dia file and with my other kind of document !!!!

This is a very important problem as Ubuntu is a *Desktop*

Regards

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

(In reply to comment #0)

> I want to say that I ever send this bug and it was marked as closed (someone
> said me that it's an OOo problem) but there is still a problem.

I don't get the interest to open a bug again for somebody already in bugzilla,
reopen the previous one if you disagree ...

> So I use Nautilus to browse my smb shares.
> When I try to run smb://my_server/my_directory/my_file.sxw (an oowriter doc) it
> fails
> -> OpenOffice say me : /home/my_user/smb://my_server/my_directory/my_file.sxw
> doesn't exist

that's an openoffice issue. Do you have openoffice.org-gnomevfs ?

> The problem is same with a Dia file and with my other kind of document !!!!

You can open wishlist bugs on the differents app saying that they should use
gnomevfs, that's not a nautilus issue, nautilus browse these shares fines.

> This is a very important problem as Ubuntu is a *Desktop*

Getting a nice network share handling for every desktop app would be nice but I
don't think that all the desktop user work on network shares all the time.

BTW that's not a nautilus issue, I'm closing the bug. Feel free to open a
wishlist on the differents apps which don't use gnomevfs, but I don't think that
this bugzilla is the right place to open such bugs (upstreams known about this,
and that's not the distribution part to write this code).

[Sebastien CELLES (s-cls)]

I don't think that some old apps such as xfig will support vfs.

Maybe upstream should also works on this bug
https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3078

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

(In reply to comment #2)
> I don't think that some old apps such as xfig will support vfs.

that's a totally different issue. You can't blame nautilus because xfig doesn't
open network files ...

[Sebastien CELLES (s-cls)]

I don't blame Nautilus... I blame GNOME/Nautilus and GnomeVFS.
In fact I wonder why not using a mount point like "smk4k" (Samba client frontend
for KDE)

A path like
/home/my_user/smb/my_server/my_directory/my_file.sxw

will be supported by any applications...

moreover /home/my_user/smb/ should be a "virtual" path

when on line it will go to smb://...
when off line it will go to /home/my_user/smb_offline

so access to share will be the same on line and off line
moreover such dicrectory will be supported by any applications...

I really think that it is a major design problem because it urge any application
to support network files...
but what is interesting with Linux/Unix is to use file by the same way if they
are on a network or not !

I hope you understand what I pointing to you...

Regards

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

(In reply to comment #4)
> I don't blame Nautilus... I blame GNOME/Nautilus and GnomeVFS.

xfig doesn't use GNOME/nautilus/gnome-vfs/... that's not a GNOME issue.

> In fact I wonder why not using a mount point like "smk4k" (Samba client frontend
> for KDE)

How does that work ?

> A path like
> /home/my_user/smb/my_server/my_directory/my_file.sxw
>
> will be supported by any applications...

You can use smbfs to mount a smb share and then use it in a standard way, have
you tried to do that ?
y_user/smb/ should be a "virtual" path

> so access to share will be the same on line and off line
> moreover such dicrectory will be supported by any applications...

That would be nice, but that's a desktop lib/app task.

> I hope you understand what I pointing to you...

Sure, and I agree that having a transparent network usage is nice.

[Sebastien CELLES (s-cls)]

About smb4k
> How does that work ?

With smb4k you browse Samba shares, when you double click on a share it is
automaticaly mount in the user home
I have never test with several users mounting the same share...

This solution is not really better because you have two use 2 différent program
+ smb4k for mounting shares
+ konqueror for browsing shares mounted in your home

I think the technical part of such a solution is better because we have a
"transparent network usage".

*But* I think that it is not an easy solution for beginners...

Maybe you should talk about it to gnomevfs team...

I really think that if we want to have a good design to solve this problem we
have to think :
+ about an easy user interface in nautilus
+ about a transparent network interface (no /home/user/smb://directory)
+ about the problem of synchronising shares

About the "standard way" of mounting share... I know it...
but I think Gnome must provide an easy way to do it...
because opening a network document on Windows is just easy as clicking on "Network"