munin should depend on (or at least recommend) "cron"

Bug #225061 reported by Daniel Hahler on 2008-05-01
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munin (Ubuntu)
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Bug Description

Binary package hint: munin

Without cron "munin" is quite useless and therefore I think it should depend on it.
It's important that data gets fetched regularly from munin-node.

$ apt-cache show munin | egrep 'Depends|Recommends|Suggests|Version'
Version: 1.2.5-2ubuntu3
Depends: adduser, libdigest-md5-perl, libhtml-template-perl, librrds-perl, libstorable-perl, libtime-hires-perl, perl (>= 5.6.0-16), perl-modules (>= 5.8.0) | libparse-recdescent-perl, rrdtool
Recommends: libdate-manip-perl, munin-node
Suggests: httpd, www-browser

This is with Ubuntu Hardy, in a minimal OpenVZ container.

Chuck Short (zulcss) wrote :

Thanks for the suggestion.

Regards
chuck

Changed in munin:
status: New → Triaged
Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :

This bug was fixed in the package munin - 1.2.5-2ubuntu3.2

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munin (1.2.5-2ubuntu3.2) intrepid; urgency=low

  * debian/control: Suggest cron. (LP: #225061)

 -- Chuck Short <email address hidden> Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:49:10 +0000

Changed in munin:
status: Triaged → Fix Released
Daniel Hahler (blueyed) wrote :

Re-opening, since I don't think a "suggest" is appropriate here: cron is _required_ actually, for querying the nodes and for updating the html pages (when not using "cgi mode" - which isn't default).
So it should be at least a recommendation.
Since "cron" is installed on most systems, this isn't a problem for most users, but if you install munin, without cron being installed, how is it supposed to work? (Note: I'm not talking about munin-node, which does not require cron).

It would be nice to get the Debian maintainer(s) opinion(s) on this. I think the bug should get forwarded therefore. What do you think?

Changed in munin:
importance: Undecided → Medium
status: Fix Released → Triaged
imker (imker) wrote :

Hi everybody.

Yes, I can confim this bug.
I use munin / munin-node in xen park. witch means i have a hardy dom0 and some hardy and deb4.0 domU. When i install muni without cron already installed, there are no files in the httpdir even after hours.

The domU was created with the tool from the xen-utils. I think it's called "domU-builder".

So it would be a realy good idea to depend munin on cron.

Daniel Hahler (blueyed) wrote :

I'm going to fix this in the next days.

Changed in munin:
assignee: nobody → blueyed
status: Triaged → In Progress
Daniel Hahler (blueyed) wrote :
Changed in munin:
assignee: blueyed → nobody
status: In Progress → Triaged
Martin Pitt (pitti) wrote :

I moved it to munin-node (which ships the cronjob) and dropped it to a recommends, which is appropriate IMHO. Please forward this to Debian, too.

Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :

This bug was fixed in the package munin - 1.2.6-8ubuntu2

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munin (1.2.6-8ubuntu2) jaunty; urgency=low

  * Move "cron" from Suggests to Recommends (LP: #225061)

 -- Daniel Hahler <email address hidden> Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:44:30 -0800

Changed in munin:
status: Triaged → Fix Released
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