Ok, followup: i tested with sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop export DISPLAY=:0 X $DISPLAY& thunderbird& kwin& export DISPLAY=:1 X $DISPLAY& thunderbird& kwin& export DISPLAY=:0 X $DISPLAY& thunderbird& compiz& export DISPLAY=:1 X $DISPLAY& thunderbird& compiz& All four scenarios: drag-and-drop works like a charm. There must be some other process/config that is interfering (I'm guessing on the Gtk level). I'm at a loss on how to proceed finding the culprit. Can I bore you with a process list? I'll list the processess as running in the last config shown above ( X $DISPLAY& thunderbird& compiz&) as compiz is my default window manager, first: ==[ pstree -u sehe ]================================ gconfd-2 bash---pstree bash-+-Xorg(root) |-compiz-+-compiz.real | `-emerald `-thunderbird---run-mozilla.sh---thunderbird-bin---9*[{thunderbird-bin}] ============================================= Next: a dump of processess from my 'normal' (kdm) session: ==[ pstree -u sehe ]================================ adept_notifier artsd dbus-daemon dbus-launch dcopserver gconfd-2 kded kdeinit─┬─alltray ├─karm ├─katapult───aspell ├─kblueplugd ├─kio_file ├─kio_media ├─kio_system ├─kio_trash ├─klauncher ├─knetworkmanager───knetworkmanager ├─4*[konqueror] ├─konsole───bash───pstree ├─python └─smart-notifier kdesktop───sh───compiz─┬─compiz.real └─emerald startkde─┬─kwrapper └─ssh-agent kicker kio_uiserver klipper kmix knotes knotify ksmserver bash thunderbird───run-mozilla.sh───thunderbird-bin───9*[{thunderbird-bin}] ============================================= Is there anything in the list that you don't have running? I could see if I could launch that in isolation again to see whether it breaks drag-and-drop. Right now the list is a bit too long, and many programs probably non-trivail to launch manually :) Cheers, Seth Seth wrote: > Rimas, > > nope I just hovered about a full minute (I'm on the phone waiting :)) > nothing changed. Thanks for confirming that you have it working. Do you > mind if I braindump anything special about my machine/config? > > Here goes > - it is KDE 3.5.8 > - Linux sehe-desktop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC > 2007 i686 GNU/Linux > - Thunderbird version 2.0.0.6 (20071022) > > also.... (drumroll) I just remembered I have a potentially unusual X > config, in that kdmrc contains (among others :)) > > StaticServers=:0,:1 > > This simply means, that I don't have to manually launch a second X > terminal. I use both terminals on a single display, switching with > Ctrl-Alt-F7/F8/F9 etc - no heroics on driver level. > > As it happens, :1 is "my" desktop (:0 being my wife's :)). Now it > shouldn't, but it might influence the inner workings of drag and drop - > being X-based IPC? I know, this is pure guesswork [of the most construed > kind], but let me know if something resonates. > > Maybe you can see how comparable situations work on your Gutsy box? In > the mean time, I'll compare running on :0 to :1, and perhaps running > 'just' thunderbird as the sole client to a fresh X/Xnest/Xnvc. > > Hope to be back in touch, > Regards, > Seth > > Rimas Kudelis wrote: > >> Hm, it works as intended for me on Ubuntu 7.10. >> >> Seth, perhaps it's just delayed reaction? I get similar problems when >> dragging music from Rhythmbox to my Desktop, for example. Sometimes you >> just have to wait a few seconds longer for the cursor to change (that >> indicates you can now move/copy the item). >> >> Note: my experience is with X.org, i've turned off both Xgl and desktop >> effects. This could be important. >> >> >> > >