touching a fullscreen application with the mousepointer puts it in front

[Tomas Pospisek]

Binary package hint: metacity

How to reproduce:
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- Run a fullscreen application (GQView, VLC, ...)
- switch with Alt-Tab to a different non-fullscreen application (gnome-terminal)
- move the mousepointer into the non-fullscreen application
- move the mousepointer out of the non-fullscreen application
-> fullscreen application will automatically move back to the top and thus covering the non-fullscreen application

Expected behaveour:
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- would be that the stacking order of the applications shouldn't change

Use Case:
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1. I'm looking fullscreen at holiday pictures in GQView, however there are also a few films that come with it. I switch to VLC with Alt-Tab and click on the right film. If my mouse-moving is not perfectly exact and I leave the VLC window, then GQView will cover all the desktop and I have to restart the "process" from the start

2. I'm watching a DVD in VLC and want to lover the volume. Alt-Tab into my Alsa-Mixer. Same problem as above - if I leave the Alsa-Mixer window area, VLC will imediately recover the whole screen.

System:
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Ubuntu 8.04, AMD 64_32, compiz is not active, metacity is running under default Gnome, Window Preferences->Focus follows mouse, no autoraise

[Nick Ellery (nick.ellery)]

Looks as if you've activated a special feature intended for this. Please go to System > Preferences > Windows, and make sure 'select windows when the mouse moves over them' and 'Raise selected windows after an interval' are not selected. Thanks!

[Pedro Villavicencio (pedro)]

Closing this bug report as no further information has been provided. Please feel free to reopen this bug if you can provide the information asked for. Thanks!.

[Tomas Pospisek (tpo-deb)]

Pedro Villavicencio wrote:

> Closing this bug report as no further information has been provided. Please feel free to reopen
> this bug if you can provide the information asked for. Thanks!.

Seems like mails to launchpad are not getting through. So, as suggested, I'm reopening this bug:

Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:05:18 +0200 (CEST)
From: Tomas Pospisek
To: Bug 249958 <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: [Bug 249958] Re: touching a fullscreen application with the mousepointer puts it in front

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, Nick Ellery wrote:

> Looks as if you've activated a special feature intended for this.
> Please go to System > Preferences > Windows, and make sure 'select
> windows when the mouse moves over them' and 'Raise selected windows
> after an interval' are not selected. Thanks!

As I wrote:

- System > Preferences > Windows >
  'select windows when the mouse moves over them', *is* selected
  (aka focus follows mouse), as intended
- System > Preferences > Windows >
  'Raise selected windows after an interval', is *not* selected
  (aka raise on focus), as intended

[Pedro Villavicencio (pedro)]

Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. You reported this bug a while ago and there hasn't been any activity in it recently. We were wondering is this still an issue for you? Thanks in advance.

[Pedro Villavicencio (pedro)]

Closing this bug report as no further information has been provided. Please feel free to reopen this bug if you can provide the information asked for. Thanks!.

[Tomas Pospisek (tpo-deb)]

Sorry Pedro Villavicencio, you can't just keep on invalidating bug reports without even bothering to read them. Go away #331767

[Michael Rooney (mrooney)]

Tomas, if your emails aren't getting to Launchpad then we have no way to triage your bugs. From the perspective of anyone looking at the bug, you aren't responding. I understand your frustration in that you are trying to communicate, but obviously no one else has any way of knowing that and the actions taken are quite logical in response (marking Incomplete or Invalid). If it is a recurring issue (I've never heard of anyone else having troubles) then just visit the actual bug page and leave your comments there to ensure they go through. Then this won't happen to you in the future!

[Tomas Pospisek (tpo-deb)]

Thanks for the kind words Michael, however I think they miss the main point:

Michael Rooney wrote:

> Tomas, if your emails aren't getting to Launchpad then we have no way to triage your bugs

You are right.

> From the perspective of anyone looking at the bug, you aren't responding.

That's however not entirely correct. I clearly stated how the bug can be reproduced. I doubt Nick Ellery tried to follow my steps, I certainly might be misstaken though. Nevertheless I replied to his inquiry one month later, again with instructions, without any visible action from anybody on this bug to this day. The bug wasn't even confirmed alltough it's quite trivial to do so.

The next question was Pedro Villavicencio's boilerplate (see LP:331767 for a discussion of that particular process) which I suspect is a semi-automatic script intended to expire inactive bugs. Is it?

> If it is a recurring issue (I've never heard of anyone else having troubles) then just visit the actual bug page and leave your comments there to ensure they go through.

If anybody is serious about fixing bugs, then please do reproduce it, the instructions are there and not difficult. If the goal is to expire as many bugs as possible, then don't count me in taking the time ever again to reply to one of those boilerplates, where it's "author" didn't care either to reproduce or fix the bug.

[Pedro Villavicencio (pedro)]

As Mike said if you have problems with your emails getting to Launchpad please do contact the launchpad team. With the information you provided in the first place we're unabled to reproduce the issue, might be only affecting you that's why we are asking to reproduce it with a newest version of metacity, are you able to do it? otherwise might be good to send this directly to bugzilla.gnome.org where the software authors are going to read about it and probably have a better clue of what's going on the package. Thanks.

[Pedro Villavicencio (pedro)]

could be the same as bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356829 could you take a look and confirm is that the same you're facing? thanks you.

[Marnanel Thurman (marnanel)]

(The upstream maintainer says: I do actually read all comments on all metacity bugs on launchpad too)

[Pedro Villavicencio (pedro)]

Thanks for the report, it has been some time without any response or feedback in this bug report and we are wondering if this is still an issue for you with the latest release of Ubuntu the Natty Narwhal, May you please test with that version and comment back if you're still having or not the issue? Please have a look at http://www.ubuntu.com/download to know how to install that version.Thanks in advance.

[Pedro Villavicencio (pedro)]

closing per request of the reporter.

[Simon Schubert (corecode)]

I can reproduce this bug. However, only one of my machines exhibits this behavior.