Andrew>
To think that the desktop should look
significantly different between releases is a side effect of having used
Windows too long!  Linux is a progressive development and many of the
tools I use have fixed issues I had in previous releases or added new
functions that I now use.

Balaji>
I'm not expecting a significant change in the desktop. In fact between
Feisty and Gutsy there IS a change in the desktop - Compiz. But I don't care
about it. What I'm looking for is:
1. Better driver support for different printer, scanner models etc.
2. Better support of Wireless. My wireless connection setup is still a very
complex procedure.
3. Bettter VPN support
4. POWER MANAGEMENT - This was promised to have improved in Gutsy. I see NO
improvement at all.
5. Better Bluetooth support - I still can't send stuff to my laptop from my
mobile. I don't know when I will send SMSes from my laptop.

I know each one of them have a different software now, like vpnc or
kbluetoothd etc. The thing is I want to use the GNOME version of these and
reduce the disk space involved in installing multiple software. GNOME
promised better work on this.

Power management is a matter of the kernel. In the Gutsy release notes they
said that the use of the new kernel improves power management. BULLSHIT.

Driver support is dependent on their relationship with the community of
programmers writing drivers like SANE or ALSA etc. I don't think they have
good contacts anymore. Almost everything is broken once you migrate from
Feisty. In migrating from one version of OS to the next, I don't want to
keep redoing all the setup activities to work on every software and driver.

Even restricted drivers was a problem. They don't have a generic kernel
based driver from my laptop modem, but a 386 kernel based driver for the
same modem is there! This is bad support indeed.

There is no significant work for which UBUNTU charges for the services. I'm
sure their services suck as much as Gutsy. Till Feisty I was a string
supported of Ubuntu and loved it better than ANY OS. Gutsy is a gross
disappointment indeed. They'll lose patrons at the rate they are rushing to
ruin Linux.

-Balaji


On Nov 29, 2007 2:48 AM, anibal <email address hidden> wrote:

> I do agree in one thing, is an anoying bug. It even feels like wndows
> loading with a mcfee antivirus ;-)
>
> I do not agree is an envidia problem. I use an internal onboard video
> card no nvidia things.
> For one moment i was thinking it was a network problem, but my network
> is working correctly hosts files is correct network files also. Others X
> env are working properly.. im even thinking to switch to kbuntu but kde
> can be also really buggy.. so i will wait..
>
>
>
> Ricardo Pérez López wrote:
> > My Gutsy desktop takes ~34 secs to fully load GNOME. The Feisty machines
> > in my classroom (I'm a computer science teacher) takes ~12 secs to fully
> > load GNOME, and these machines are significantly slower than my home
> > desktop computer. Other Gutsy machines in the High School takes 25-30
> > secs.
> >
> > IMHO, this is a very annoying bug, and, after a brief investigation, I
> > think the problem only appears in machines with NVIDIA graphics cards.
> >
> > Maybe a compiz - nvidia interaction?
> >
> >
>
> --
> [Gutsy] GNOME takes too much time to load during system boot
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/151544
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>



-- 
Balaji