installer does not allow the right country/language combination

Bug #828412 reported by André Pirard
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This bug affects 2 people
Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
localechooser (Ubuntu)
Low
Unassigned

Bug Description

Ubuntu 11.10 beta installation.

 1. What you expected to happen

The same as what happened, but without the inconvenience

 2. What actually happened

Update: seems to affect only Alternate CD (Gnome), LiveCD is OK.

Supposing a foreign person person in Belgium, let's say an American.

Installation starts.
Language choice: what he speaks: English (twice)
Country for time zone, euro, etc. : Belgium

Answer: "There is no locale defined for the combination of language and country..."
"You can now select the locale that will be used ... [a country where English is spoken]"
And our American guy is requested to move to Zimbabwe or some place, e. g. return to US.
Or to install and configure the system in a language he does not understand.

FYI: a computer located in Belgium is perfectly capable of running in English, see:
http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html#Setting-the-POSIX-Locale

As a side note, if he chooses Dutch (his neighbour's language) the system answers that the messages may be a mix of Dutch and English !!! Make up your mind ;-)

 3. The minimal series of steps necessary to make it happen, where step 1 is "start the program"
1 start the programs
2 all of the above.

Colin Watson (cjwatson)
affects: base-installer (Ubuntu) → localechooser (Ubuntu)
papukaija (papukaija)
tags: added: oneiric
André Pirard (a.pirard)
description: updated
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André Pirard (a.pirard) wrote :

This eternal bug had been reported one year ago in hope to be fixed in 12.04 but it seems useless to report bugs.

André Pirard (a.pirard)
tags: added: precise
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André Pirard (a.pirard) wrote :

These are screen shots of a 12.04 installation screens with the error message over-lined.
(wonderful those Сони cameras!!!) ;-)

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André Pirard (a.pirard) wrote :
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André Pirard (a.pirard) wrote :
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Dimitri John Ledkov (xnox) wrote :

As a workaround, it is trivial to change time-zone & locale post-install. So install defaulting to English (US) (or any other English locales of your choice), and then change the necessary time-zone after the installation.

Changed in localechooser (Ubuntu):
status: New → Confirmed
importance: Undecided → Low
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André Pirard (a.pirard) wrote :

This problem does not affect the graphical installer, so it's brilliantly solved it by removing the text installer ;-)
Not everyone finds sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata and tzselect trivial.
sample ;-) : http://askubuntu.com/questions/33025/locale-settings-are-not-right-how-can-i-reset-them
I'm even getting scolded by certain persons for suggesting commands.

BTW, it's a pity that the whole of a language must be installed (except Chinese?) just for using its locale.
As well as for spell-checking it, for those who don't know how to install just the dictionary and select it.
For example askubuntu. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1624581
Windows can use any locale and spelling despite remaining monolingual ;-)
It can even change details of a locale piece by piece.

I found no status indicating that the problem disappeared because the component disappeared :-)

Thank you.

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