Activity log for bug #105511

Date Who What changed Old value New value Message
2007-04-11 12:11:53 Daniel Holbach bug added bug
2007-04-11 12:12:23 Daniel Holbach None: status Unconfirmed Confirmed
2007-04-11 12:12:23 Daniel Holbach None: importance Undecided Medium
2007-04-11 12:12:23 Daniel Holbach None: statusexplanation
2007-04-11 12:16:07 Michael Vogt title Universe and Multiverse not enabled by default Universe and Multiverse not enabled by default on the livecd
2008-07-07 18:23:29 Pascal De Vuyst bug added subscriber Ubuntu CD Image Team
2008-09-24 23:10:02 Chris Coulson livecd-rootfs: statusexplanation This is still the case on the current Intrepid Alpha. Re-milestoning from ubuntu-7.04 to ubuntu-8.10
2008-09-24 23:10:02 Chris Coulson livecd-rootfs: milestone ubuntu-7.04 ubuntu-8.10
2008-10-09 01:26:45 Colin Watson livecd-rootfs: status Confirmed Triaged
2008-10-09 01:26:45 Colin Watson livecd-rootfs: importance Medium Wishlist
2008-10-09 01:26:45 Colin Watson livecd-rootfs: statusexplanation This is still the case on the current Intrepid Alpha. Re-milestoning from ubuntu-7.04 to ubuntu-8.10 While it would be lovely to make the live environment consistent with installed systems in this regard (generally one of its design goals), I'm afraid it simply isn't feasible right now. Enabling universe and multiverse means having their Packages files present in the live filesystem. Here are their current file sizes, along with their size when compressed using lzma (which is likely to be at least as good as squashfs' compression): $ ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_intrepid_{universe,multiverse}_binary-i386_Packages -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 955011 2008-10-09 00:25 /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_intrepid_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 21744533 2008-10-08 11:27 /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_intrepid_universe_binary-i386_Packages $ cat /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_intrepid_{universe,multiverse}_binary-i386_Packages | lzma -9c | wc -c 4243872 4MB or so. (gzip comes out at more like 6MB, so it may be more than 4MB.) If you include Sources as well, which would ordinarily be the default, that costs a further 2MB: $ ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_intrepid_{universe,multiverse}_source_Sources -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 432417 2008-10-09 00:31 /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_intrepid_multiverse_source_Sources -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9228693 2008-10-08 11:32 /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_intrepid_universe_source_Sources $ cat /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_intrepid_{universe,multiverse}_source_Sources | lzma -9c | wc -c 2003104 Right now, the Ubuntu Intrepid i386 desktop CD is running at about 3MB below the physical limit for 700MB CDs, and amd64 is under 1MB below. We are perpetually short of space here, and I'm afraid I simply can't justify throwing out localisation and/or features in order to enable universe and multiverse on the desktop CD. That said, we can afford the space on the DVD, and I've arranged for the live filesystems on the DVDs to have universe and multiverse enabled from now on. That doesn't close this bug, but I think it's about as much as we can do for now. livecd-rootfs (0.72) intrepid; urgency=low * Fix source mirror for -updates in generated sources.list (it was incorrect for ports architectures). * Fix description of universe in generated sources.list: packages there are expected to be under a free licence. * Enable universe and multiverse for DVDs (there isn't generally enough space on CDs; see LP #105511). -- Colin Watson <cjwatson@ubuntu.com> Thu, 09 Oct 2008 02:13:41 +0100
2008-10-09 01:26:45 Colin Watson livecd-rootfs: milestone ubuntu-8.10