HDD unusual high temperature and activity in Ubuntu Jaunty

[Elena09]

My hard disk temperature is pretty high (above 45 Celsius degrees) even if I just read an article without any other activity. Also, I can hear the noise of the hard disk permanently, at every 3 or 4 seconds it is moving. I have a Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo Mobile V6545 laptop with Ubuntu 9.04.

So: iotop -o (after previously installed iotop) gives me, for a fraction of a second, commands like: gnome power management, kjournald, pidgin and one or two more. But each dissapeared very quickly. The Command column is empty now, for a long time has been empty.

The temperature (sudo hddtemp /dev/sda) is 48 Celsius degrees now. I remarked (repeating it) that the temperature starts decreasing after I unplugg the AC adapter so that the laptop is running on battery only. But it was 58 Celsius degree, with Pidgin running only.

The annoying click of the hard disk can be heard at each 3 or 4 seconds.

The hard disk is WD3200BEVT. Its specification may be found at
   http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=2670&p_created=#jumper.

[Philip Muškovac (yofel)]

Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better.
Could you please check which process is accessing the drive with 'iotop'?
For this you need to install it first. Then open a Terminal (Applications->Accessories->Terminal) and then run

iotop -o

you will then find the process being displayed in the COMMAND field when it accesses the disk.

[Elena09 (emailstudenti)]

Hello and thanks for answering,

I did that and see please what I wrote in the bug's page (I updated). Something is wrong, and I believe it is related to acpi and power management and/or with the parking bug.

--- On Thu, 7/2/09, Philip Muskovac <email address hidden> wrote:

From: Philip Muskovac <email address hidden>
Subject: [Bug 394826] Re: HDD unusual high temperature and activity in Ubuntu Jaunty
To: <email address hidden>
Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 2:11 PM

Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better.
Could you please check which process is accessing the drive with 'iotop'?
For this you need to install it first. Then open a Terminal (Applications->Accessories->Terminal) and then run

iotop -o

you will then find the process being displayed in the COMMAND field when
it accesses the disk.

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Bug description:
My hard disk temperature is pretty high (above 45 Celsius degrees) even if I just read an article  without any other activity. Also, I can hear the noise of the hard disk permanently, at every 3 or 4 seconds it is moving. I have a Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo Mobile V6545 laptop with Ubuntu 9.04.

[Elena09 (emailstudenti)]

There definitely is something wrong with my hard disk. I updated the Bios from Fujitsu site but same things happen. The periodical clicks at each 4 seconds and high temperatures. They decrease after I unplugg the AC adapter and use only the battery.

I want to mention that there is a bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/374121 which is similar to mine but there is no solution apparently.

And another one, older:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695

And finally I was shocked to find:
http://www.google.ro/search?hl=en&q=Load+cycles+in+Ubuntu&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=

SOMETHING MUST be done because a laptop is expensive and people cannot afford to buy hard disks just like that....

I like Ubuntu and recommended to all coleagues and friends, but this bug it's too serious to be neglected. How can it be solved? And before that, how can I be sure that it is that bug in my case and not another?

I have Ubuntu 9.04, Jaunty, I updated yesterday everything with Update Manager, I don't know what's going on with the hard disk.

So: iotop -o (after previously installed iotop) gives me, for a
fraction of a second, commands like: gnome power management, kjournald,
pidgin and one or two more. But each dissapeared very quickly. The
Command column is empty now, for a long time has been empty.
The temperature (sudo hddtemp /dev/sda) is 48 Celsius degrees now. I
remarked (repeating it) that the temperature starts decreasing after I
unplugg the AC adapter so that the laptop is running on battery only.
But it was 58 Celsius degree, with Pidgin running only.
The annoying click of the hard disk can be heard at each 3 or 4 seconds.
The hard disk is WD3200BEVT. Its specification may be found at

   http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=2670&p_created=#jumper.

--- On Fri, 7/3/09, Elena09 <email address hidden> wrote:

From: Elena09 <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: [Bug 394826] Re: HDD unusual high temperature and activity in Ubuntu Jaunty
To: <email address hidden>
Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 4:58 AM

Hello and thanks for answering,

I did that and see please what I wrote in the bug's page (I updated).
Something is wrong, and I believe it is related to acpi and power
management and/or with the parking bug.

--- On Thu, 7/2/09, Philip Muskovac <email address hidden> wrote:

From: Philip Muskovac <email address hidden>
Subject: [Bug 394826] Re: HDD unusual high temperature and activity in Ubuntu Jaunty
To: <email address hidden>
Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 2:11 PM

Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better.
Could you please check which process is accessing the drive with 'iotop'?
For this you need to install it first. Then open a Terminal (Applications->Accessories->Terminal) and then run

iotop -o

you will then find the process being displayed in the COMMAND field when
it accesses the disk.

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       Status: New => Incomplete

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[Philip Muškovac (yofel)]

Ok, It seems your issue might be driver related and so I don't think I can help you any more. I'll reset the bug status to new so that somebody else can take over the triaging.

As for the load cycles in ubuntu:
Laptop Mode is DISABLED BY DEFAULT in Ubuntu, So if somebody has an issue like that it's because that enabled laptop_mode themselves. Also note that laptop_mode should only be invoked while on battery power where the spin down of a hard drive can improve battery life.

It would also help if you could please include the following additional information (pay attention to lspci's additional options), as required by the Ubuntu Kernel Team:
1. Please include the output of the command "uname -a" in your next response. It should be one, long line of text which includes the exact kernel version you're running, as well as the CPU architecture.
2. Please run the command "dmesg > dmesg.log" after a fresh boot and attach the resulting file "dmesg.log" to this bug report.
3. Please run the command "sudo lspci -vvnn > lspci-vvnn.log" and attach the resulting file "lspci-vvnn.log" to this bug report.

Thank you in advance.

[Elena09 (emailstudenti)]

So here they are:

1) uname -a gave: http://paste.ubuntu.com/209274/

2) dmesg.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/209292/

(But I am not sure what a fresh boot means. I turned laptop off and again on and after that I typed the comand in the Terminal and searched for that file and pasted it).

3) lspci-vvnn.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/209288/

I have no idea how to turn on or off that Laptop mode stuff; to be sure it is off, perhaps you could tell me how. Thanks and hope a solution can be found to those clicks and to the high temperatures.

I just want to mention that the click I can hear whenever I turn the laptop off (shut down), that kind of click can be heard repeatedly, many times in a minute, at each 3 or 4 seconds, when the laptop is running on batery only, with the AC adapter unplugged. The temperature is 47 Celsius, after writing this email only, no other applications (except power management I guess).

--- On Fri, 7/3/09, Philip Muskovac <email address hidden> wrote:

From: Philip Muskovac <email address hidden>
Subject: [Bug 394826] Re: HDD unusual high temperature and activity in Ubuntu Jaunty
To: <email address hidden>
Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 6:59 AM

Ok, It seems your issue might be driver related and so I don't think I
can help you any more. I'll reset the bug status to new so that somebody
else can take over the triaging.

As for the load cycles in ubuntu:
Laptop Mode is
 DISABLED BY DEFAULT in Ubuntu, So if somebody has an issue like that it's because
 that enabled laptop_mode themselves. Also note that laptop_mode should only be invoked while on battery power where the spin down of a hard drive can improve battery life.

It would also help if you could please include the following additional information (pay attention to lspci's additional options), as required by the Ubuntu Kernel Team:
1. Please include the output of the command "uname -a" in your next response. It should be one, long line of text which includes the exact kernel version you're running, as well as the CPU architecture.
2. Please run the command "dmesg > dmesg.log" after a fresh boot and attach the resulting file "dmesg.log" to this bug report.
3. Please run the command "sudo lspci -vvnn > lspci-vvnn.log" and attach the resulting file "lspci-vvnn.log" to this bug report.

Thank you in advance.

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HDD
 unusual high temperature and activity in Ubuntu Jaunty
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Status in Ubuntu: New

Bug description:
My hard disk temperature is pretty high (above 45 Celsius degrees) even if I just read an article  without any other activity. Also, I can hear the noise of the hard disk permanently, at every 3 or 4 seconds it is moving. I have a Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo Mobile V6545 laptop with Ubuntu 9.04.

So: iotop -o (after previously installed iotop) gives me, for a fraction of a second, commands like: gnome power management, kjournald, pidgin and one or two more. But each dissapeared very quickly. The Command column is empty now, for a long time has been empty.

The temperature (sudo hddtemp /dev...

[Philip Muškovac (yofel)]

Thanks.

As for Laptop mode:
it's set int /etc/default/acpi-support

# Switch to laptop-mode on battery power - off by default as it causes odd
# hangs on some machines. (Note: This is reported to cause breakage in
# Debian - see deb bug #425800. Leaving enabled for Ubuntu for now
# since presumably it's still valid here.)
ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE=false

This should be always false unless you change it by hand.

Also if you want to try changing the power managemant of you hd by hand try hdparm (-B and -S would be what you want I think)

[Elena09 (emailstudenti)]

Thanks.

I checked in that file, and Enable laptop  Mode is on False at me.
The clicks cannot be heard while the AC adapter is plugged in. Only temperature is high. For example, while writing this email, no other application running, it is 51 Ccelsius degree.
How can I check if the HDD is spinning continously?
I used the commands from http://www.overclockingwiki.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1645
and I found there were 0.2 cycles per minute (12. ... cycles per hour) in this case.

But when AC adapter is unplugged and the laptop is running on batery only, the temperature starts decreasing, but the clicks can be heard in this case, one click each 3 or 4 seconds, annoying. ....

I was thinking (empirically.....): what about disabling APM power management in Bios, or turning somehow acpi off, or perhaps that Laptop Mode is switching on while running on batery? I don't know what to do....

--- On Fri, 7/3/09, Philip Muskovac <email address hidden> wrote:

From: Philip Muskovac <email address hidden>
Subject: [Bug 394826] Re: HDD unusual high temperature and activity in Ubuntu Jaunty
To: <email address hidden>
Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 3:39 PM

Thanks.

As for Laptop mode:
it's set int /etc/default/acpi-support

# Switch to laptop-mode on battery power - off by default as it causes odd
# hangs on some machines.  (Note: This is reported to cause breakage in
# Debian - see deb bug #425800.  Leaving enabled for Ubuntu for now
# since presumably it's still valid here.)
ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE=false

This should be always false unless you change it by hand.

Also if you want to try changing the power managemant of you hd by hand
try hdparm (-B and -S would be what you want I think)

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HDD unusual high temperature and activity in Ubuntu Jaunty
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/394826
You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
of the bug.

Status in Ubuntu: New

Bug description:
My hard disk temperature is pretty high (above 45 Celsius degrees) even if I just read an article  without any other activity. Also, I can hear the noise of the hard disk permanently, at every 3 or 4 seconds it is moving. I have a Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo Mobile V6545 laptop with Ubuntu 9.04.

So: iotop -o (after previously installed iotop) gives me, for a fraction of a second, commands like: gnome power management, kjournald, pidgin and one or two more. But each dissapeared very quickly. The Command column is empty now, for a long time has been empty.

The temperature (sudo hddtemp /dev/sda) is 48 Celsius degrees now. I remarked (repeating it) that the temperature starts decreasing after I unplugg the AC adapter so that the laptop is running on battery only. But it was 58 Celsius degree, with Pidgin running only.

The annoying click of the hard disk can be heard at each 3 or 4 seconds.

The hard disk is WD3200BEVT. Its specification may be found at
   http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=2670&p_created=#jumper.

[Elena09 (emailstudenti)]

I forgot to add that I found similar behaviour at:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/374121

And I have  acpi-support 0.121 on my laptop. ...

--- On Fri, 7/3/09, Philip Muskovac <email address hidden> wrote:

From: Philip Muskovac <email address hidden>
Subject: [Bug 394826] Re: HDD unusual high temperature and activity in Ubuntu Jaunty
To: <email address hidden>
Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 3:39 PM

Thanks.

As for Laptop mode:
it's set int /etc/default/acpi-support

# Switch to laptop-mode on battery power - off by default as it causes odd
# hangs on some machines.  (Note: This is reported to cause breakage in
# Debian - see deb bug #425800.  Leaving enabled for Ubuntu for now
# since presumably it's still valid here.)
ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE=false

This should be always false unless you change it by hand.

Also if you want to try changing the power managemant of you hd by hand
try hdparm (-B and -S would be what you want I think)

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HDD unusual high temperature and activity in Ubuntu Jaunty
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/394826
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Status in Ubuntu: New

Bug description:
My hard disk temperature is pretty high (above 45 Celsius degrees) even if I just read an article  without any other activity. Also, I can hear the noise of the hard disk permanently, at every 3 or 4 seconds it is moving. I have a Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo Mobile V6545 laptop with Ubuntu 9.04.

So: iotop -o (after previously installed iotop) gives me, for a fraction of a second, commands like: gnome power management, kjournald, pidgin and one or two more. But each dissapeared very quickly. The Command column is empty now, for a long time has been empty.

The temperature (sudo hddtemp /dev/sda) is 48 Celsius degrees now. I remarked (repeating it) that the temperature starts decreasing after I unplugg the AC adapter so that the laptop is running on battery only. But it was 58 Celsius degree, with Pidgin running only.

The annoying click of the hard disk can be heard at each 3 or 4 seconds.

The hard disk is WD3200BEVT. Its specification may be found at
   http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=2670&p_created=#jumper.

[Elena09 (emailstudenti)]

Definetely something is very wrong there at my HDD. This morning I took an hour to experiment it. First, while on batery, the temperature was 33 Celsius at HDD and the number of cycles increased from 1458 to 1470 in about 3 minutes.

Next, I used the AC power adapter, and the temperature increased to 48 Celsius degrees, without opening any other application. So, a 15 Celsius increase. But the 1470 number of cycles stopped increasing and is still now after half an hour .

How can I get rid of acpi and Laptop Mode? Laptop Mode is on False, but it is a "1" when related to batery. Is it wrong to be without acpi support?

[trikster (tpszon)]

Similar problem at Compaq Presario C300 with HDD WD800BEVS-60LAT0.
HDD is warmer then on win XP about 7 centigrades on ubuntu (9.04 i 9.10), and on openSuse 11.2 , Load/Unload Cycle goes up with similar rate ( 20 per hour or less) at default settings.
If i change them with hdparm -B 253 Load/Unload Cycle skyrockets (150 per hour) but temperature goes down only 2-3 centigrades, and it is still higher 4-5 centigrades then on XP.
Other lower then 253 settings with hdparm -b don't change anything.
Temperature on idle on win XP 39, on Linux 46, under heavy load on XP 43 and on ubuntu and suse 50.

It seams like WD Scorpio problem with Linux, I don't know how other drives behave.

[stricte (stricte)]

Confirmed problem at Compaq cq60-140ew. Lspic -v at pastie: http://pastie.org/685399. Temperature of hard disk is highest on ubuntu than on winxp or vista or win7 (sth about 7 centigrades). Changing Load/Unload Cycle cant do serious differences.

[Elena09 (emailstudenti)]

ubuntu and linux, suck!

--- On Thu, 11/5/09, stricte <email address hidden> wrote:

From: stricte <email address hidden>
Subject: [Bug 394826] Re: HDD unusual high temperature and activity in Ubuntu Jaunty
To: <email address hidden>
Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 1:16 PM

Confirmed problem at Compaq cq60-140ew. Lspic -v at pastie:
http://pastie.org/685399. Temperature of hard disk is highest on ubuntu
than on winxp or vista or win7 (sth about 7 centigrades). Changing
Load/Unload Cycle cant do serious differences.

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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/394826
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Status in Ubuntu: New

Bug description:
My hard disk temperature is pretty high (above 45 Celsius degrees) even if I just read an article  without any other activity. Also, I can hear the noise of the hard disk permanently, at every 3 or 4 seconds it is moving. I have a Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo Mobile V6545 laptop with Ubuntu 9.04.

So: iotop -o (after previously installed iotop) gives me, for a fraction of a second, commands like: gnome power management, kjournald, pidgin and one or two more. But each dissapeared very quickly. The Command column is empty now, for a long time has been empty.

The temperature (sudo hddtemp /dev/sda) is 48 Celsius degrees now. I remarked (repeating it) that the temperature starts decreasing after I unplugg the AC adapter so that the laptop is running on battery only. But it was 58 Celsius degree, with Pidgin running only.

The annoying click of the hard disk can be heard at each 3 or 4 seconds.

The hard disk is WD3200BEVT. Its specification may be found at
   http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=2670&p_created=#jumper.

[LDDM (lddm00)]

Hi!...I'm using Ubuntu 9.04 installed on a Western Digital Scorpio hard drive, model WD2500BEVE. I don't have problems with the load/unload cycle count (it increases but at a slow pace) but the temperature goes up and up...until I shut down the machine voluntarily usually in the 52º C. This behavior occurs even not demanding lot of hd activity, like using only Pidgin and Chromium. Using windows xp the temperature doesn't reach more than 47 ºC when demanding full use as for example doing a disk "defrag", naturally it remains in between the 30ºC and 40ºC . If there's a way this problem can be solved I would very pleased, as I can't use Ubuntu more than 50 minutes without having to turn off and wait for a hard drive cool.
Please let me know if I can post more useful information, and sorry about my bad english, it's not my natural tongue.
Luis

[smith (smith-gss)]

Hi ..I'm having the same problem as discussed in this issue. I use Toshiba laptop (MK2552GSX 250GB hard disk) and having the same problem of hard disk getting overheated even when no significant I/O activity on the machine. I have dual boot on my machine and could confirm this problem is specific to ubuntu and not in vista. When i approached Toshiba service centre, they mentioned to me that they heard more problems like these from other Toshiba users who use ubuntu 9.04 or 9.10 as their OS
and they said they can't do anything about it as they support only vista. Someone from Ubuntu should seriously look in to this.

[trikster (tpszon)]

I've checked hdd settings in Win XP and Advanced power managment level is set to 128, but this doesn't make Load/Unload count to increase very much. I've set kjurnalad to touch disk only each 10 min and also pdfush to 15 min, nut running even Firefox couses disk to spin down and up all the time. Is it possible to set ubuntu not to use hdd so much?

[Philip Muškovac (yofel)]

Setting to confrimed as several people seems to have this issue.

[Mosab (mosabama-hotmail)]

I think this problem is about the western Digital Hard Drives. I searched every single website every post about this but there is no solution. I always use a cooling pad under the laptop for the temp to stay at the range of (40 - 44) C. !!
if I dont use a cooling pad it would hit the 60's.

I checked HD activity ... I didn't find any process writing to HD .. its completely idle.
I used every single LINUX distro to find a way out ... but NOTHING ... its not about ubuntu. its about linux and Western Digital.

I use ubuntu 10.04 now ... and still. its really the time for some one to act on this ... its really getting serious and annoying.

[Elena09 (emailstudenti)]

You see, that is why I switched backed to Windows. Linux is great but it sucks!!

--- On Sun, 3/28/10, Mosab <email address hidden> wrote:

From: Mosab <email address hidden>
Subject: [Bug 394826] Re: HDD unusual high temperature and activity in Ubuntu Jaunty
To: <email address hidden>
Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 6:01 PM

I think this problem is about the western Digital Hard Drives. I searched every single website every post about this but there is no solution. I always use a cooling pad under the laptop for the temp to stay at the range of (40 - 44) C. !!
if I dont use a cooling pad it would hit the 60's.

I checked HD activity ... I didn't find any process writing to HD .. its completely idle.
I used every single LINUX distro to find a way out ... but NOTHING ... its not about ubuntu. its about linux and Western Digital.

I use ubuntu 10.04 now ... and still. its really the time for some one
to act on this ... its really getting serious and annoying.

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Bug description:
My hard disk temperature is pretty high (above 45 Celsius degrees) even if I just read an article  without any other activity. Also, I can hear the noise of the hard disk permanently, at every 3 or 4 seconds it is moving. I have a Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo Mobile V6545 laptop with Ubuntu 9.04.

So: iotop -o (after previously installed iotop) gives me, for a fraction of a second, commands like: gnome power management, kjournald, pidgin and one or two more. But each dissapeared very quickly. The Command column is empty now, for a long time has been empty.

The temperature (sudo hddtemp /dev/sda) is 48 Celsius degrees now. I remarked (repeating it) that the temperature starts decreasing after I unplugg the AC adapter so that the laptop is running on battery only. But it was 58 Celsius degree, with Pidgin running only.

The annoying click of the hard disk can be heard at each 3 or 4 seconds.

The hard disk is WD3200BEVT. Its specification may be found at
   http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=2670&p_created=#jumper.

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[petar (petars-70)]

I can confirm that this bug exists until now. Laptop Compaq CQ61-210SQ with hard drive WD2500BEVT. Tested Ubuntu 10.04 and Fedora 13, generally in Linux temperature of HDD quickly go to 55-56 degrees with CPU fan always on(set in BIOS). This is with skype and xchat. Under Windows XP it is 44-45 degrees in same conditions. Will be good if some Linux specialist find cause of this extreme temperature.

[petar (petars-70)]

most used application in iotop -o is jbd2/sda5-8

[Hatem MASMOUDI (hatem-masmoudi)]

I have The Same problem In My Laptop Acer Aspire 5610Z with WDC WD1600BEVT-00ZCT0 disk.

I have tested with Ubuntu 10.04 and Fedora 13 : the same proplem, the temperature of my disk rise up to 55 °C .
I have tested with Mandriva 2010.1, the temperature of my disk dont rise up 46 °C.

For information I dont have any activity in my Laptop.

[bhuvi (bhuvanesh)]

i can confirm this issue with my lenovo g550 laptop containing western digital 320gb hard disk model:WD3200BEVT-22ZCT0.

This issue existed from ubuntu 9.04 -ubuntu 10.04 , the ubuntu versions i tested in my laptop.

for me the disk temperature rises above 54 degree C when idle on AC.

[bhuvi (bhuvanesh)]

As this issue is clearly described in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/399978 im marking this as duplicate of bug #399978

[Philip Muškovac (yofel)]

Removing verification tag as that's a SRU tag.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags#SRU%20Specific