install failure with older laptop PII

[Javaman]

Tried to install 9.04 BETA (newest) on older laptop (that was running Ubuntu 9.04 prior edition - FINE.
Installation failure messages abnormal exits from modprobe /pcspeaker and i8204....

This newest version will not install.....
tried several times....
stalls on Ubuntu splash screen with red line under icon...
then after about 10 minutes will give up after hardware drivers ...... [ ok ] - but the OK never gets printed.. on display.

Thanks in advance

older Pent. II
BIOS old phoenix
CTI manuf. (OEM)
Ubuntu 9.04 BETA - END of MARCH 2009 release

Prior version 9.04 FEB 2009 runs fine.

I tried to install and also to run the newest 9.04RC Ubuntu version today.
I can not run it live at all. The last version to install and run was 9.04 Alpha 5.
The error message is:
* preparing restricted drivers...
* Starting kernal event manager... [ok]
* loading hardware drivers ...
udevdevent2487]: '/lib/udev/pcmcia-socket-startup'
abnormal exit
segmentation fault
(hangs)
---
The live version gets the ubuntu splash/logon screen and hangs during the horz. red bar at approx. 10 percent.
same as since 9.04 Beta and on...
Javaman

[Leann Ogasawara (leannogasawara)]

Hi Javaman,

Are you able to run the LiveCD without any issues? It would also be good if you took a peek at the following and attached the relevant debug files - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUbiquity/AttachingLogs . Thanks.

[Javaman (greg-giessow)]

I will try (I have run older live CD, not the current 9.04 ones.

I could not get a file off the machine. I crashed or stopped during the
installation process.
I have an older distro (Feb. Ubuntu 9.04 Alpha 5?) on the machine as a
backup. It works fine...
Javaman

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Leann Ogasawara <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> Hi Javaman,
>
> Are you able to run the LiveCD without any issues? It would also be
> good if you took a peek at the following and attached the relevant debug
> files - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUbiquity/AttachingLogs .
> Thanks.
>
> ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
> Status: New => Incomplete
>
> --
> install failure with older laptop PII
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353350
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in “linux” source package in Ubuntu: Incomplete
>
> Bug description:
> Tried to install 9.04 BETA (newest) on older laptop (that was running
> Ubuntu 9.04 prior edition - FINE.
> Installation failure messages abnormal exits from modprobe /pcspeaker and
> i8204....
>
> This newest version will not install.....
> tried several times....
> stalls on Ubuntu splash screen with red line under icon...
> then after about 10 minutes will give up after hardware drivers ...... [
> ok ] - but the OK never gets printed.. on display.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> older Pent. II
> BIOS old phoenix
> CTI manuf. (OEM)
> Ubuntu 9.04 BETA - END of MARCH 2009 release
>
> Prior version 9.04 FEB 2009 runs fine.
>

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Greg Giessow
Email: <email address hidden>

[Moneta Funzionata (djmonkey1)]

I have the exact same problem with 9.04 on a PIII laptop. 8.10 installs and runs fine, however 9.04 does not work.

I was able to fully install 9.04 on my first try, however it would not boot, system failed on segmentation fault. After that it would not re-install or boot. I checked the MD5 sum of the iso image and tried burning to a new cd and got the same result.

I did a disk check and a memory test on the system and both passed with no errors.

[Javaman (greg-giessow)]

The machine in question for me is a old Pent. III, is yours also a Pentium
III processor?????
Javaman

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 5:30 AM, moneta_funzionata <email address hidden>wrote:

> I have the exact same problem with 9.04 on a PIII laptop. 8.10
> installs and runs fine, however 9.04 does not work.
>
> I was able to fully install 9.04 on my first try, however it would not
> boot, system failed on segmentation fault. After that it would not re-
> install or boot. I checked the MD5 sum of the iso image and tried
> burning to a new cd and got the same result.
>
> I did a disk check and a memory test on the system and both passed with
> no errors.
>
> --
> install failure with older laptop PII
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353350
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in “linux” source package in Ubuntu: Incomplete
>
> Bug description:
> Tried to install 9.04 BETA (newest) on older laptop (that was running
> Ubuntu 9.04 prior edition - FINE.
> Installation failure messages abnormal exits from modprobe /pcspeaker and
> i8204....
>
> This newest version will not install.....
> tried several times....
> stalls on Ubuntu splash screen with red line under icon...
> then after about 10 minutes will give up after hardware drivers ...... [
> ok ] - but the OK never gets printed.. on display.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> older Pent. II
> BIOS old phoenix
> CTI manuf. (OEM)
> Ubuntu 9.04 BETA - END of MARCH 2009 release
>
> Prior version 9.04 FEB 2009 runs fine.
>
>
> I tried to install and also to run the newest 9.04RC Ubuntu version today.
> I can not run it live at all. The last version to install and run was 9.04
> Alpha 5.
> The error message is:
> * preparing restricted drivers...
> * Starting kernal event manager... [ok]
> * loading hardware drivers ...
> udevdevent2487]: '/lib/udev/pcmcia-socket-startup'
> abnormal exit
> segmentation fault
> (hangs)
> ---
> The live version gets the ubuntu splash/logon screen and hangs during the
> horz. red bar at approx. 10 percent.
> same as since 9.04 Beta and on...
> Javaman
>

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Sent by

Greg Giessow
Email: <email address hidden>

[Moneta Funzionata (djmonkey1)]

Yes, mine is a PIII. I have been running Xubuntu 8.10 on the machine with no problems.

After I was unable to boot from a clean install of 9.04, I did a clean install of 8.10 and then upgraded to 9.04. The upgrade went fine until the reboot when the exact same problem occurred (identical to what you have described).

Today I was able to boot into the machine by selecting the Linux kernel 2.6.27-7 at boot. The problem, then, appears to lie with the kernel.

Interestingly, however, after doing the clean install of 9.04 and selecting ext4 as the filesystem, I was not even able to perform another clean install of 9.04.

So, my workaround for this is currently as follows (worked on my system with Xubuntu):

1. Do a clean install of 8.10.
2. Upgrade to 9.04 using Synaptic. I did not perform any other updates, just went straight for the upgrade.
3. On boot, follow the prompts to hit the escape key and get the boot menu (my machine gives me two seconds to do this).
4. Select kernel 2.6.27-7. Machine boots up, System Monitor shows Ubuntu Release 9.04 (jaunty), Kernel Linux 2.6.27-7-generic, and GNOME 2.26.1.

[Javaman (greg-giessow)]

Did you ever install 9.04 Alpha 5 or 9.04 Alpha 6?
These were available in Feb. from Ubuntu on the road to 9.04 RC, etc.
I have no problems with the basic 9.04 Alpha 5.... version (do not try to
update to current)
Javaman

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 5:02 AM, moneta_funzionata <email address hidden>wrote:

> Yes, mine is a PIII. I have been running Xubuntu 8.10 on the machine
> with no problems.
>
> After I was unable to boot from a clean install of 9.04, I did a clean
> install of 8.10 and then upgraded to 9.04. The upgrade went fine until
> the reboot when the exact same problem occurred (identical to what you
> have described).
>
> Today I was able to boot into the machine by selecting the Linux kernel
> 2.6.27-7 at boot. The problem, then, appears to lie with the kernel.
>
> Interestingly, however, after doing the clean install of 9.04 and
> selecting ext4 as the filesystem, I was not even able to perform another
> clean install of 9.04.
>
> So, my workaround for this is currently as follows (worked on my system
> with Xubuntu):
>
> 1. Do a clean install of 8.10.
> 2. Upgrade to 9.04 using Synaptic. I did not perform any other updates,
> just went straight for the upgrade.
> 3. On boot, follow the prompts to hit the escape key and get the boot menu
> (my machine gives me two seconds to do this).
> 4. Select kernel 2.6.27-7. Machine boots up, System Monitor shows Ubuntu
> Release 9.04 (jaunty), Kernel Linux 2.6.27-7-generic, and GNOME 2.26.1.
>
> --
> install failure with older laptop PII
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353350
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in “linux” source package in Ubuntu: Incomplete
>
> Bug description:
> Tried to install 9.04 BETA (newest) on older laptop (that was running
> Ubuntu 9.04 prior edition - FINE.
> Installation failure messages abnormal exits from modprobe /pcspeaker and
> i8204....
>
> This newest version will not install.....
> tried several times....
> stalls on Ubuntu splash screen with red line under icon...
> then after about 10 minutes will give up after hardware drivers ...... [
> ok ] - but the OK never gets printed.. on display.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> older Pent. II
> BIOS old phoenix
> CTI manuf. (OEM)
> Ubuntu 9.04 BETA - END of MARCH 2009 release
>
> Prior version 9.04 FEB 2009 runs fine.
>
>
> I tried to install and also to run the newest 9.04RC Ubuntu version today.
> I can not run it live at all. The last version to install and run was 9.04
> Alpha 5.
> The error message is:
> * preparing restricted drivers...
> * Starting kernal event manager... [ok]
> * loading hardware drivers ...
> udevdevent2487]: '/lib/udev/pcmcia-socket-startup'
> abnormal exit
> segmentation fault
> (hangs)
> ---
> The live version gets the ubuntu splash/logon screen and hangs during the
> horz. red bar at approx. 10 percent.
> same as since 9.04 Beta and on...
> Javaman
>

--
Sent by

Greg Giessow
Email: <email address hidden>

[Moneta Funzionata (djmonkey1)]

Greg-

I have never run any Alpha releases on the computer in question.

Alpha 5 includes the 2.6.28-8.26 kernel based on 2.6.28.7.
Alpha 6 includes the 2.6.28-8.26 kernel based on 2.6.28.7.
Ubuntu 9.04 Beta includes the 2.6.28-11.37 kernel based on 2.6.28.8.

[Moneta Funzionata (djmonkey1)]

As my post above shows, one major change to the Beta over Alpha 6 was moving to a new kernel version (with Beta being where Greg started having problems).

[Javaman (greg-giessow)]

Thanks,

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:43 PM, moneta_funzionata <email address hidden>wrote:

> Greg-
>
> I have never run any Alpha releases on the computer in question.
>
> Alpha 5 includes the 2.6.28-8.26 kernel based on 2.6.28.7.
> Alpha 6 includes the 2.6.28-8.26 kernel based on 2.6.28.7.
> Ubuntu 9.04 Beta includes the 2.6.28-11.37 kernel based on 2.6.28.8.
>
> --
> install failure with older laptop PII
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353350
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in “linux” source package in Ubuntu: Incomplete
>
> Bug description:
> Tried to install 9.04 BETA (newest) on older laptop (that was running
> Ubuntu 9.04 prior edition - FINE.
> Installation failure messages abnormal exits from modprobe /pcspeaker and
> i8204....
>
> This newest version will not install.....
> tried several times....
> stalls on Ubuntu splash screen with red line under icon...
> then after about 10 minutes will give up after hardware drivers ...... [
> ok ] - but the OK never gets printed.. on display.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> older Pent. II
> BIOS old phoenix
> CTI manuf. (OEM)
> Ubuntu 9.04 BETA - END of MARCH 2009 release
>
> Prior version 9.04 FEB 2009 runs fine.
>
>
> I tried to install and also to run the newest 9.04RC Ubuntu version today.
> I can not run it live at all. The last version to install and run was 9.04
> Alpha 5.
> The error message is:
> * preparing restricted drivers...
> * Starting kernal event manager... [ok]
> * loading hardware drivers ...
> udevdevent2487]: '/lib/udev/pcmcia-socket-startup'
> abnormal exit
> segmentation fault
> (hangs)
> ---
> The live version gets the ubuntu splash/logon screen and hangs during the
> horz. red bar at approx. 10 percent.
> same as since 9.04 Beta and on...
> Javaman
>

--
Sent by

Greg Giessow
Email: <email address hidden>

[Leann Ogasawara (leannogasawara)]

Hi Guys,

Just want to try to keep this report up to date. Care to test and confirm this issue remains with the latest development release of Ubuntu (ie Karmic). ISO CD images are available from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/ . Thanks.

[Moneta Funzionata (djmonkey1)]

Tried to install Xubuntu Karmic Alpha 3 on the laptop and got the same result. Hangs on install.

[Moneta Funzionata (djmonkey1)]

Latest and greatest: installed Puppy Linux on the old laptop at some point in the past, worked fine. Put it in the closet and forgot about it. Pulled it out today and ran Xubuntu 9.10 RC from the cd, then chose the install option.

Every thing worked fine. Install went fine, no problems, system boots up no problem.

[Me (cmosis5)]

Tried 9.10 with Pentium II 500 MHz which was running Redhat.
However, Ubuntu would not install... ends up sitting with the cursor icon spinning. Won't run in live mode either.

[Me (cmosis5)]

Put in more RAM and it worked so 9.10 is OK.
(Interesting though - windows NT installed and was even running on this PC with the low memory it had.)

[Javaman (greg-giessow)]

9.10 works fine,
Javaman

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Leann Ogasawara <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> Hi Javaman,
>
> Are you able to run the LiveCD without any issues? It would also be
> good if you took a peek at the following and attached the relevant debug
> files - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUbiquity/AttachingLogs .
> Thanks.
>
> ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
> Status: New => Incomplete
>
> --
> install failure with older laptop PII
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353350
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in “linux” source package in Ubuntu: Incomplete
>
> Bug description:
> Tried to install 9.04 BETA (newest) on older laptop (that was running
> Ubuntu 9.04 prior edition - FINE.
> Installation failure messages abnormal exits from modprobe /pcspeaker and
> i8204....
>
> This newest version will not install.....
> tried several times....
> stalls on Ubuntu splash screen with red line under icon...
> then after about 10 minutes will give up after hardware drivers ...... [
> ok ] - but the OK never gets printed.. on display.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> older Pent. II
> BIOS old phoenix
> CTI manuf. (OEM)
> Ubuntu 9.04 BETA - END of MARCH 2009 release
>
> Prior version 9.04 FEB 2009 runs fine.
>

--
Sent by

Greg Giessow
Email: <email address hidden>

[Javaman (greg-giessow)]

latest 9.10 works fine.
Javaman

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Leann Ogasawara <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
> Importance: Undecided => Medium
>
> ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
> Status: Incomplete => Triaged
>
> --
> install failure with older laptop PII
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353350
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Triaged
>
> Bug description:
> Tried to install 9.04 BETA (newest) on older laptop (that was running
> Ubuntu 9.04 prior edition - FINE.
> Installation failure messages abnormal exits from modprobe /pcspeaker and
> i8204....
>
> This newest version will not install.....
> tried several times....
> stalls on Ubuntu splash screen with red line under icon...
> then after about 10 minutes will give up after hardware drivers ...... [
> ok ] - but the OK never gets printed.. on display.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> older Pent. II
> BIOS old phoenix
> CTI manuf. (OEM)
> Ubuntu 9.04 BETA - END of MARCH 2009 release
>
> Prior version 9.04 FEB 2009 runs fine.
>
>
> I tried to install and also to run the newest 9.04RC Ubuntu version today.
> I can not run it live at all. The last version to install and run was 9.04
> Alpha 5.
> The error message is:
> * preparing restricted drivers...
> * Starting kernal event manager... [ok]
> * loading hardware drivers ...
> udevdevent2487]: '/lib/udev/pcmcia-socket-startup'
> abnormal exit
> segmentation fault
> (hangs)
> ---
> The live version gets the ubuntu splash/logon screen and hangs during the
> horz. red bar at approx. 10 percent.
> same as since 9.04 Beta and on...
> Javaman
>

--
Sent by

Greg Giessow
Email: <email address hidden>

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javaman, this bug report is being closed due to your last comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/353350/comments/17 regarding this being fixed with an update. For future reference you can manage the status of your own bugs by clicking on the current status in the yellow line and then choosing a new status in the revealed drop down box. You can learn more about bug statuses at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status. Thank you again for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. Please submit any future bugs you may find.