michael@michael-ubuntu:~$ evtest No device specified, trying to scan all of /dev/input/event* Not running as root, no devices may be available. Available devices: /dev/input/event5:    CH PRODUCTS CH FLIGHT SIM YOKE USB Select the device event number [0-18]: ^C michael@michael-ubuntu:~$ Fresh boot today but after removing my setfacl (udev rule is still there) of course still the same! So you marked this as solved? Haha best to remove this crappy udev. What is that useful for? Such should never have gone into a LTS. Looks like I need to change distro once I find some free time and motivation. I've used many years Suse but switched some years ago to ubuntu because of a bug... ________________________________ From: Martin Pitt