Hi Yeah I will gather everything needed to run the tests. I have everything on a daily rolling back up so I can always re install 12.10 as that has worked the longest without any re install so far so i kinda left it and was going to upgrade soon. I will get back to you directly after I have upgraded to the new version of UBUNTU and the latest kernel. At the moment I am fixing my bathroom and have no bath/shower as the floor boards have rotted and installing a new bathroom suit at the same time. so it might be a couple of weeks before i do the tests with UBUNTU Regards, John > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 01:12:37 +0000 > From: