RPi 5 Ubuntu Server 6.5.0-1005-raspi USB boot works, 6.5.0-1008 doesn't?

[Jef ZIegler]

RPi 5, RPi Imager Ubuntu Server images has 6.5.0-1005-raspi & USB boot works. "apt update && apt upgrade" try to install 6.5.0-1008 that will not USB boot? If I use "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" that doesn't update that package, all is fine. Is there a none fix?

[jhonmike8272 (jhonmi)]

Experiencing similar USB boot issues with the RPi 5 and kernel version 6.5.0-1008. Oddly, 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' seems to bypass the problem for now https://betflix.club/. Anyone else finding a permanent fix for this.

[Jef ZIegler (jziegler)]

Thanks for confirming what I found. I did find this link: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-raspi/6.5.0-1008.11

Did the "Raspberry Pi 3B+ doesnt boot from USB on 23.10 Mantic (LP: #2039786)" fix brake RPi 5??

[Juerg Haefliger (juergh)]

I cannot reproduce this. I can boot a Pi 5 just fine from USB with 6.5.0-1008-raspi:

ubuntu@rpi-5b-rev1d0-f88b:~$ lsblk
NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTS
loop0 7:0 0 68.5M 1 loop /snap/core22/867
loop1 7:1 0 169M 1 loop /snap/lxd/25953
loop2 7:2 0 35.5M 1 loop /snap/snapd/20298
sda 8:0 0 119.2G 0 disk
├─sda1 8:1 0 512M 0 part /boot/firmware
└─sda2 8:2 0 118.7G 0 part /
ubuntu@rpi-5b-rev1d0-f88b:~$ uname -a
Linux rpi-5b-rev1d0-f88b 6.5.0-1008-raspi #11-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Wed Nov 22 19:08:26 UTC 2023 aarch64 aarch64 aarch64 GNU/Linux

Do you get any console message? Can you hook up the serial console and check what is happening? Do you have the official Pi5 power supply?

[Jef ZIegler (jziegler)]

After I break the system by updating, how do I get the output from "uname -a"? Will booting to a good image & using chroot work?

[Jef ZIegler (jziegler)]

Are you going from the Raspberry Pi Imager 23.10 server image, boot, change password, update & reboot? Or something different?

[Jef ZIegler (jziegler)]

Also, if I USB boot an SD card (vs SSD) the 1008 works.

[Juerg Haefliger (juergh)]

1) Download server image from https://ubuntu.com/download/raspberry-pi
2) Unxz image and dd to sdd
3) Plug sdd into Pi, boot, change pw, upgrade, reboot

Boot from USB is only supported with the official Pi5 PS. If you're using a different one you could get lucky, or not. What's your PS?

What bootloader version do you have installed?

$ rpi-eeprom-update
BOOTLOADER: up to date
   CURRENT: Mon Sep 25 10:44:03 UTC 2023 (1695638643)
    LATEST: Mon Sep 25 10:44:03 UTC 2023 (1695638643)
   RELEASE: default (/lib/firmware/raspberrypi/bootloader-2712/default)
            Use raspi-config to change the release.

[Jef ZIegler (jziegler)]

So, the Ubuntu download is different than the official Raspberry PI download?

[Jef ZIegler (jziegler)]

My PS is the OFFICAL but that doesn't matter if you are using a power dock???

[Juerg Haefliger (juergh)]

What's a power dock? And I don't know what image pi-imager is downloading. Might very well be the same, or do you have evidence that it's not?

[Juerg Haefliger (juergh)]

The point about the PS is that the Pi firmware enables max USB power if it detects a compliant PS and not otherwise. Which basically limits the amount of current provided to USB attached devices, which could break boot from USB.

[Juerg Haefliger (juergh)]

Oh did you mean a powered USB hub? If that then yes, the PS shouldn't matter. Can you send the output of lsusb when booting the old kernel? Could be another UAS problematic disk enclosure.

[Jef ZIegler (jziegler)]

Looks like my newer RPi 5 shipped with a newer version.

Current: Wed Dec 6 18:29:25 UTC 2023 (17018897365)

[Jef ZIegler (jziegler)]

lsusb:

Bus 004 Device 002: ID 174c:5106 ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1051 SATA 3Gb/s bridge
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 004: ID 413c:301a Dell Computer Corp. Dell MS116 Optical Mouse
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 413c:2006 Dell Computer Corp. Dell USB Keyboard Hub
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 413c:1004 Dell Computer Corp. Dell USB Keyboard Hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

[Jef ZIegler (jziegler)]

I also have another powered dock & will try that.

Bus 002 Device 002: ID 1f75:0621 Innostor Technology Corporation IS621 SATA Storage Controller

[Juerg Haefliger (juergh)]

Serial console output would really help, otherwise we're just shooting in the dark.

[Juerg Haefliger (juergh)]

You can try to append the following to /boot/firmware/cmdline.txt (note that all must be on one line):

usb-storage.quirks=174c:5106:u

This will disable UAS for your USB-SATA bridge.

[Juerg Haefliger (juergh)]

Probably unrelated but add the following to the end of /boot/firmware/config.txt:

[all]
usb_max_current_enable=1

[Jef ZIegler (jziegler)]

Switching to a generic SATA->USB adapter vs the Rosewill RX-DU300 dock allowed me to update the kernel. Thanks for that suggestion.

Also, using "agnostics" I went from 1,995/4,662 IOPS to 2,881/6,998 IOPS, nice performance increase. My ROCKETEK adapter didn't work at all. I am still using the 12v adapter, seems to boot faster vs USB power.

[Juerg Haefliger (juergh)]

We need kernel/firmware messages from the serial console if you want us to debug this further.

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