consider dropping thermald to a Recommends: on linux-image-* meta packages

Bug #1387144 reported by ben thielsen
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This bug affects 2 people
Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
linux-meta (Ubuntu)
Fix Released
Low
Andy Whitcroft
Utopic
Fix Released
Low
Andy Whitcroft
Vivid
Fix Released
Low
Andy Whitcroft

Bug Description

i've just upgraded to 14.10, and i see that linux-image-generic now lists thermald as a dependency. is this really a genuine requirement now, that without which a computer cannot be used?

can this be listed as a recommended or suggested dependency instead, so that it is not forced to be installed on computers which have no use for it?
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AlsaVersion: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version k3.16.0-23-generic.
AplayDevices: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
ApportVersion: 2.14.7-0ubuntu8
Architecture: amd64
ArecordDevices: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
AudioDevicesInUse: Error: command ['fuser', '-v', '/dev/snd/by-path', '/dev/snd/pcmC0D4p', '/dev/snd/pcmC0D3p', '/dev/snd/pcmC0D2p', '/dev/snd/pcmC0D1p', '/dev/snd/pcmC0D0c', '/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p', '/dev/snd/controlC0', '/dev/snd/timer'] failed with exit code 1:
CRDA: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
Card0.Amixer.info: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
Card0.Amixer.values: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.10
HibernationDevice: RESUME=/dev/mapper/vg1-swap
IwConfig: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
Lspci: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
MachineType: Dell Inc. Precision WorkStation T3500
Package: linux (not installed)
PciMultimedia:

ProcEnviron:
 TERM=xterm-256color
 PATH=(custom, no user)
 LANG=en_US.UTF-8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
ProcFB: 0 nouveaufb
ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-23-generic root=/dev/mapper/vg1-root ro nomdmonddf nomdmonisw nomdmonddf nomdmonisw
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.16.0-23.31-generic 3.16.4
RelatedPackageVersions:
 linux-restricted-modules-3.16.0-23-generic N/A
 linux-backports-modules-3.16.0-23-generic N/A
 linux-firmware 1.138
RfKill: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
Tags: utopic utopic utopic
Uname: Linux 3.16.0-23-generic x86_64
UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to utopic on 2014-10-28 (0 days ago)
UserGroups:

WifiSyslog:

_MarkForUpload: True
dmi.bios.date: 05/28/2013
dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc.
dmi.bios.version: A17
dmi.board.name: 09KPNV
dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc.
dmi.board.version: A00
dmi.chassis.type: 7
dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc.
dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA17:bd05/28/2013:svnDellInc.:pnPrecisionWorkStationT3500:pvr:rvnDellInc.:rn09KPNV:rvrA00:cvnDellInc.:ct7:cvr:
dmi.product.name: Precision WorkStation T3500
dmi.sys.vendor: Dell Inc.

Brad Figg (brad-figg)
affects: linux-meta (Ubuntu) → linux (Ubuntu)
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Colin Ian King (colin-king) wrote :

We've moved to the intel-pstate driver by default for 14.10 which is an improved frequency scaling driver. On some hardware we've had evidence of this pushing the CPU a little harder and some machines were running hot, so we've also included thermald to stop thermal overruns.

Also, thermald has proved useful on 14.04 on some i7 based laptops that have poor thermal designs, buggy thermal trip data, CPU thermal paste issues or broken active cooling (such as fans). These machines have normally shutdown because of overheating. Thermald kicks in passive cooling to prevent thermal overruns on these broken machines.

However, it would be useful to uninstall this, so making it recommended is probably the best option.

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Colin Ian King (colin-king) wrote :

I forgot to mention that thermald does exit if the H/W or visualized H/W does not support the necessary thermal controls, so on these systems it's more like a no-op.

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Brad Figg (brad-figg) wrote : Missing required logs.

This bug is missing log files that will aid in diagnosing the problem. From a terminal window please run:

apport-collect 1387144

and then change the status of the bug to 'Confirmed'.

If, due to the nature of the issue you have encountered, you are unable to run this command, please add a comment stating that fact and change the bug status to 'Confirmed'.

This change has been made by an automated script, maintained by the Ubuntu Kernel Team.

Changed in linux (Ubuntu):
status: New → Incomplete
Tim Gardner (timg-tpi)
Changed in linux (Ubuntu Utopic):
assignee: nobody → Colin Ian King (colin-king)
status: New → In Progress
Changed in linux (Ubuntu Vivid):
assignee: nobody → Colin Ian King (colin-king)
status: Incomplete → In Progress
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ben thielsen (btb-bitrate) wrote : AlsaDevices.txt

apport information

tags: added: apport-collected utopic
description: updated
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ben thielsen (btb-bitrate) wrote : BootDmesg.txt

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ben thielsen (btb-bitrate) wrote : CurrentDmesg.txt

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ben thielsen (btb-bitrate) wrote : Lsusb.txt

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ben thielsen (btb-bitrate) wrote : ProcCpuinfo.txt

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ben thielsen (btb-bitrate) wrote : ProcInterrupts.txt

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ben thielsen (btb-bitrate) wrote : ProcModules.txt

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ben thielsen (btb-bitrate) wrote : UdevDb.txt

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ben thielsen (btb-bitrate) wrote : UdevLog.txt

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Andy Whitcroft (apw)
Changed in linux (Ubuntu Utopic):
importance: Undecided → Low
Changed in linux (Ubuntu Vivid):
importance: Undecided → Low
Tim Gardner (timg-tpi)
affects: linux (Ubuntu Utopic) → linux-meta (Ubuntu Utopic)
Andy Whitcroft (apw)
Changed in linux-meta (Ubuntu Utopic):
assignee: Colin Ian King (colin-king) → Andy Whitcroft (apw)
Changed in linux-meta (Ubuntu Vivid):
assignee: Colin Ian King (colin-king) → Andy Whitcroft (apw)
Andy Whitcroft (apw)
Changed in linux-meta (Ubuntu Vivid):
status: In Progress → Fix Committed
Revision history for this message
Andy Whitcroft (apw) wrote :

Discussed this with the release team and it seems completely appropriate for this to be a Recommends: such that it can be removed in those rare cases it is deemed not needed by a knowledgeable owner.

Pushed this change to vivid, and submitted for SRU to utopic.

summary: - why does linux-image-generic depend on thermald
+ consider dropping thermald to a Recommends: on linux-image-* meta
+ packages
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Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :

This bug was fixed in the package linux-meta - 3.16.0.25.26

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linux-meta (3.16.0.25.26) utopic; urgency=low

  [ Andy Whitcroft ]

  * downgrade thermald to a Recommends: so that it can be removed when
    it is not needed. (LP: #1387144)

  [ Luis Henriques ]

  * linux ABI 3.16.0-25
 -- Luis Henriques <email address hidden> Tue, 04 Nov 2014 12:07:00 +0000

Changed in linux-meta (Ubuntu Utopic):
status: In Progress → Fix Released
Changed in linux-meta (Ubuntu Vivid):
status: Fix Committed → Fix Released
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