libreoffice should ship by default with the presenter console

[Manuel R. Ciosici]

Binary package hint: libreoffice

When Ubuntu is installed LibreOffice is installed as well. Unfortunately the presenter console plugin in is not installed. This plug in is, according to the LibreOffice team, a part of LibreOffice and it does ship as part of the install file for the other platforms (Windows and Mac OS).

This is a basic feature that isn't present by default in the Ubuntu installation. Normal users have no way to install it since they are not aware (or made aware by Ubuntu) of it's existence.

[Launchpad Janitor (janitor)]

Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

[Björn Michaelsen (bjoern-michaelsen)]

That argument flawed. The default install does not contain a full libreoffice install (for example base is missing). If presenter console shall be included, there need to be better reasons for it. This would need discussion as per:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-default-apps
(or a followup for p+1)

[iGadget (igadget)]

Aw man... If only I had seen this bug report sooner, that would have saved me a hell of a lot of frustration. See #824466.

So I guess it's too late now to add the presenter console to the desktop-p-default-apps blueprint, right? If not, I would happily join the discussion and provide reasons why we should.

If it is too late, what is the name of the package to install to get the presenter console back? I've been searching in SC on a 12.04 beta2 live environment and was not able to find anything.

[iGadget (igadget)]

For anyone running into this issue - the package name is libreoffice-presenter-console. Install it after installing 12.04 and voilà: working like a charm (once you've set the 'Presentation display' to 'Display 2' in the Slide Show Settings).

Still, this should definitely be a part of the default Ubuntu install.

[Jeremy Bícha (jbicha)]

I'm re-adding the ubuntu-meta task as I believe this should be installed by default as a recommends of libreoffice-impress. The extension (bundled by default for Windows, Mac, and Fedora users) significantly improves Impress's usability for its primary purpose: giving presentations with an external projector.

It takes up about 700 KB.

[penalvch (penalvch)]

Jeremy Bicha, if the presenter-console was to be packaged as a hard coded dependency, and subsequently part of the Live CD or default install, it would be done by libreoffice in main:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice

It would not be packaged as a part of ubuntu-meta.

Please do not re-add it to the bug. Thanks!

[Jeremy Bícha (jbicha)]

Ok, if the ubuntu-meta task is inappropriate, then I'm reopening the libreoffice task. Having this bug closed as Invalid or Opinion is clearly inappropriate as it's not been proven (or even discussed to any degree at all) that it definitely should not happen.

[penalvch (penalvch)]

Won't Fix as per https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/798299/comments/2.

[papukaija (papukaija)]

Not installing by default leads to issues like bug 824466 because users may not know that they need to install additional packages to get a core feature to work.

[Björn Michaelsen (bjoern-michaelsen)]

Christopher, Jeremy: We can rediscuss this on UDS-Q for the P+1 release.

[Jeremy Bícha (jbicha)]

Ubuntu 12.10 Alpha "Quantal Quetzal" now includes these extensions by default:

Recommends: libreoffice-ogltrans
Recommends: libreoffice-pdfimport
Recommends: libreoffice-presentation-minimizer
Recommends: libreoffice-presenter-console

[Mozaic (mozaic)]

Thinks to add it in Ubuntu 12.10, i hope that it will come in 12.04

[Mozaic (mozaic)]

It will be in LibreOffice 4.0 's core:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.0#Extensions