2011-02-06 07:27:07 |
Cheng-Chia Tseng |
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2011-02-06 07:38:14 |
Aron Xu |
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added subscriber Ubuntu Taiwan LoCo Team |
2011-02-06 07:39:22 |
Aron Xu |
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added subscriber Ubuntu CJK Testers |
2011-02-06 08:43:08 |
Aron Xu |
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added subscriber Aron Xu |
2011-02-06 08:43:20 |
Aron Xu |
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added subscriber Qianqian Fang |
2011-02-06 13:45:52 |
poloshiao |
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2011-02-08 04:37:15 |
Cheng-Chia Tseng |
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Binary package hint: language-selector
Now the setting of 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf picks up the Latin fonts first, then fallback to Chinese fonts. By default, ubuntu only installs DejaVu font family and WenQuanYi Micro Hei font.
However, there is no need to pick up the Latin fonts first. I am here to propose to remove the Latin fonts (Bitstream and DejaVu family) in the configration for the reasons below:
1. As far as I have known, WenQuanYi Micro Hei font provied all the typefaces which DejaVu fonts have. There is no need to fallback.
2. There is no evidence indicating mixing Latin characters provided by Latin fonts with Chinese characters provided by CJK fonts will be the best default experience. Actullay, that will sacrifice the consistency when there is English, Chinese, Japanese and Korean text displaying on the screen at the same time.
3. Removing the Latin fonts in the configuration provides the best capibilty for Chinese with those programs which do not follow the fallback machenism of fontconfig, such as Evince. The programs like that only pick up the first font, DejaVu font, and displaying squares for Chinese characters.
4. People still have the freedom to edit the configuration or add new rules, there is no harm removing those Latin font strings in zh_TW configuration.
Please consider to remove the Latin fonts prior to the CJK fonts. |
Binary package hint: language-selector
Now the setting of 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf picks up the Latin fonts first, then fallback to Chinese fonts. By default, ubuntu only installs DejaVu font family and WenQuanYi Micro Hei font.
However, there is no need to pick up the Latin fonts first. I am here to propose to remove the Latin fonts (Bitstream and DejaVu family) in the configration for the reasons below:
1. As far as I have known, WenQuanYi Micro Hei font provied all the typefaces which DejaVu fonts have. There is no need to fallback.
2. There is no evidence indicating mixing Latin characters provided by Latin fonts with Chinese characters provided by CJK fonts will be the best default experience. Actullay, that will sacrifice the consistency when there is English, Chinese, Japanese and Korean text displaying on the screen at the same time.
3. Removing the Latin fonts in the configuration provides the best compatibilty for Chinese with those programs which do not follow the fallback machenism of fontconfig, such as Evince. The programs like that only pick up the first font, DejaVu font, and displaying squares for Chinese characters.
4. People still have the freedom to edit the configuration or add new rules, there is no harm removing those Latin font strings in zh_TW configuration.
Please consider to remove the Latin fonts prior to the CJK fonts.
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2011-02-08 04:38:37 |
Cheng-Chia Tseng |
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Binary package hint: language-selector
Now the setting of 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf picks up the Latin fonts first, then fallback to Chinese fonts. By default, ubuntu only installs DejaVu font family and WenQuanYi Micro Hei font.
However, there is no need to pick up the Latin fonts first. I am here to propose to remove the Latin fonts (Bitstream and DejaVu family) in the configration for the reasons below:
1. As far as I have known, WenQuanYi Micro Hei font provied all the typefaces which DejaVu fonts have. There is no need to fallback.
2. There is no evidence indicating mixing Latin characters provided by Latin fonts with Chinese characters provided by CJK fonts will be the best default experience. Actullay, that will sacrifice the consistency when there is English, Chinese, Japanese and Korean text displaying on the screen at the same time.
3. Removing the Latin fonts in the configuration provides the best compatibilty for Chinese with those programs which do not follow the fallback machenism of fontconfig, such as Evince. The programs like that only pick up the first font, DejaVu font, and displaying squares for Chinese characters.
4. People still have the freedom to edit the configuration or add new rules, there is no harm removing those Latin font strings in zh_TW configuration.
Please consider to remove the Latin fonts prior to the CJK fonts.
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Binary package hint: language-selector
Now the setting of 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf picks up the Latin fonts first, then fallback to Chinese fonts. By default, ubuntu only installs DejaVu font family and WenQuanYi Micro Hei font.
However, there is no need to pick up the Latin fonts first. I am here to propose to remove the Latin fonts (Bitstream and DejaVu family) in the configration for the reasons below:
1. As far as I have known, WenQuanYi Micro Hei font provied all the typefaces which DejaVu fontfamily covers. There is no need to fallback.
2. There is no evidence indicating mixing Latin characters provided by Latin fonts with Chinese characters provided by CJK fonts will be the best default experience. Actullay, that will sacrifice the consistency when there is English, Chinese, Japanese and Korean text displaying on the screen at the same time.
3. Removing the Latin fonts in the configuration provides the best compatibilty for Chinese with those programs which do not follow the fallback machenism of fontconfig, such as Evince. The programs like that only pick up the first font, DejaVu font, and displaying squares for Chinese characters.
4. People still have the freedom to edit the configuration or add new rules, there is no harm removing those Latin font strings in zh_TW configuration.
Please consider to remove the Latin fonts prior to the CJK fonts.
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2011-03-21 15:59:37 |
Cheng-Chia Tseng |
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Binary package hint: language-selector
Now the setting of 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf picks up the Latin fonts first, then fallback to Chinese fonts. By default, ubuntu only installs DejaVu font family and WenQuanYi Micro Hei font.
However, there is no need to pick up the Latin fonts first. I am here to propose to remove the Latin fonts (Bitstream and DejaVu family) in the configration for the reasons below:
1. As far as I have known, WenQuanYi Micro Hei font provied all the typefaces which DejaVu fontfamily covers. There is no need to fallback.
2. There is no evidence indicating mixing Latin characters provided by Latin fonts with Chinese characters provided by CJK fonts will be the best default experience. Actullay, that will sacrifice the consistency when there is English, Chinese, Japanese and Korean text displaying on the screen at the same time.
3. Removing the Latin fonts in the configuration provides the best compatibilty for Chinese with those programs which do not follow the fallback machenism of fontconfig, such as Evince. The programs like that only pick up the first font, DejaVu font, and displaying squares for Chinese characters.
4. People still have the freedom to edit the configuration or add new rules, there is no harm removing those Latin font strings in zh_TW configuration.
Please consider to remove the Latin fonts prior to the CJK fonts.
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Binary package hint: language-selector
Now the setting of 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf picks up the Latin fonts first, then fallback to Chinese fonts. By default, ubuntu only installs DejaVu font family and WenQuanYi Micro Hei font.
DejaVu is a high quality Latin fontfamily which has oblique and italic styles. WenQuanYi Micro Hei font covers Latin, Chinese, Japanese and Korean, but only has regular style
However, there is no need to pick up the Latin fonts first. I am here to suggest a better configuration by the reasons below:
1. As far as I have known, WenQuanYi Micro Hei font provied all the typefaces which DejaVu fontfamily covers, but lack of oblique, bold and italic styles.
2. The order of languages most used by Chinese (Taiwan) users is: Chinese > English > Japanese > Korean > other Western languages(eg. French, Spanish, German, Russia...). Ideally, the system should select the best fonts having Chinese (Taiwan) characters first, then go to the best Latin fonts to meet Chinese (Taiwan) users' need.
3. There is no evidence indicating mixing Latin characters provided by Latin fonts with Chinese characters provided by CJK fonts will be the best default experience. Actullay, that will sacrifice the consistency when there is Latin and CJK text displaying on the screen at the same time, because Latin characters and CJK characters are in different flavors.
3. Selecting fonts including Chinese (Taiwan) characters first in the configuration provides the best compatibilty for Chinese with those programs which do not follow the fallback machenism of fontconfig, such as Evince. The programs like that only pick up the first font, DejaVu font, and displaying squares for Chinese characters.
4. People still have the freedom to edit the configuration or add new rules, there is no harm selecting those font strings including Chinese (Taiwan) characters first in zh_TW configuration.
Please consider to choose the CJK fonts before the Latin fonts. |
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2011-03-22 17:45:11 |
Cheng-Chia Tseng |
description |
Binary package hint: language-selector
Now the setting of 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf picks up the Latin fonts first, then fallback to Chinese fonts. By default, ubuntu only installs DejaVu font family and WenQuanYi Micro Hei font.
DejaVu is a high quality Latin fontfamily which has oblique and italic styles. WenQuanYi Micro Hei font covers Latin, Chinese, Japanese and Korean, but only has regular style
However, there is no need to pick up the Latin fonts first. I am here to suggest a better configuration by the reasons below:
1. As far as I have known, WenQuanYi Micro Hei font provied all the typefaces which DejaVu fontfamily covers, but lack of oblique, bold and italic styles.
2. The order of languages most used by Chinese (Taiwan) users is: Chinese > English > Japanese > Korean > other Western languages(eg. French, Spanish, German, Russia...). Ideally, the system should select the best fonts having Chinese (Taiwan) characters first, then go to the best Latin fonts to meet Chinese (Taiwan) users' need.
3. There is no evidence indicating mixing Latin characters provided by Latin fonts with Chinese characters provided by CJK fonts will be the best default experience. Actullay, that will sacrifice the consistency when there is Latin and CJK text displaying on the screen at the same time, because Latin characters and CJK characters are in different flavors.
3. Selecting fonts including Chinese (Taiwan) characters first in the configuration provides the best compatibilty for Chinese with those programs which do not follow the fallback machenism of fontconfig, such as Evince. The programs like that only pick up the first font, DejaVu font, and displaying squares for Chinese characters.
4. People still have the freedom to edit the configuration or add new rules, there is no harm selecting those font strings including Chinese (Taiwan) characters first in zh_TW configuration.
Please consider to choose the CJK fonts before the Latin fonts. |
Binary package hint: language-selector
Now the setting of 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf picks up the Latin fonts first, then fallback to Chinese fonts. By default, ubuntu only installs DejaVu font family and WenQuanYi Micro Hei font.
DejaVu is a high quality Latin fontfamily which has ExtraLight, Condensed, Book, Condensed Italic...and many more styles. WenQuanYi Micro Hei font covers Latin, Chinese, Japanese and Korean, but only has Regular, Italic, Bold and Bold Italic styles.
However, there is no need to pick up the Latin fonts first. I am here to suggest a better configuration by the reasons below:
1. As far as I have known, WenQuanYi Micro Hei font provied all the typefaces which DejaVu fontfamily covers, but lack of Condensed, EtralLight and some other styles.
2. The order of languages most used by Chinese (Taiwan) users is: Chinese > English > Japanese > Korean > other Western languages(eg. French, Spanish, German, Russia...). Ideally, the system should select the best fonts having Chinese (Taiwan) characters first, then go to the best Latin fonts to meet Chinese (Taiwan) users' need.
3. There is no evidence indicating mixing Latin characters provided by Latin fonts with Chinese characters provided by CJK fonts will be the best default experience. Actullay, that will sacrifice the consistency when there is Latin and CJK text displaying on the screen at the same time, because Latin characters and CJK characters are in different flavors.
3. Selecting fonts including Chinese (Taiwan) characters first in the configuration provides the best compatibilty for Chinese with those programs which do not follow the fallback machenism of fontconfig, such as Evince. The programs like that only pick up the first font, DejaVu font, and displaying squares for Chinese characters.
4. People still have the freedom to edit the configuration or add new rules, there is no harm selecting those font strings including Chinese (Taiwan) characters first in zh_TW configuration.
Please consider to choose the CJK fonts before the Latin fonts. |
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2011-03-24 13:29:16 |
Hsin-Yi, Chen (hychen) |
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added subscriber Hsin-Yi, Chen (hychen) |
2011-03-25 12:41:56 |
Keng-Yu Lin |
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added subscriber Keng-Yü Lin |
2011-03-25 22:56:39 |
Gunnar Hjalmarsson |
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added subscriber Martin Pitt |
2011-03-26 02:41:15 |
Cheng-Wei Chien |
removed subscriber Ubuntu Taiwan LoCo Team |
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2011-03-26 17:08:23 |
Cheng-Chia Tseng |
attachment added |
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Proposed file for SelectChineseFontFirst+LatinFontsBinding https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/713950/+attachment/1943429/+files/69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf |
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2011-03-28 02:43:25 |
Keng-Yu Lin |
language-selector (Ubuntu): status |
New |
Confirmed |
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2011-03-28 02:43:30 |
Keng-Yu Lin |
language-selector (Ubuntu): importance |
Undecided |
High |
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2011-03-28 04:11:14 |
Aron Xu |
removed subscriber Aron Xu |
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2011-03-28 04:18:09 |
Hsin-Yi, Chen (hychen) |
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added subscriber AceLan Kao |
2011-03-28 04:18:27 |
Hsin-Yi, Chen (hychen) |
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added subscriber Ying-Chun Liu |
2011-03-28 04:20:46 |
airplanez |
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added subscriber airplanez |
2011-03-28 09:22:07 |
Cheng-Chia Tseng |
description |
Binary package hint: language-selector
Now the setting of 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf picks up the Latin fonts first, then fallback to Chinese fonts. By default, ubuntu only installs DejaVu font family and WenQuanYi Micro Hei font.
DejaVu is a high quality Latin fontfamily which has ExtraLight, Condensed, Book, Condensed Italic...and many more styles. WenQuanYi Micro Hei font covers Latin, Chinese, Japanese and Korean, but only has Regular, Italic, Bold and Bold Italic styles.
However, there is no need to pick up the Latin fonts first. I am here to suggest a better configuration by the reasons below:
1. As far as I have known, WenQuanYi Micro Hei font provied all the typefaces which DejaVu fontfamily covers, but lack of Condensed, EtralLight and some other styles.
2. The order of languages most used by Chinese (Taiwan) users is: Chinese > English > Japanese > Korean > other Western languages(eg. French, Spanish, German, Russia...). Ideally, the system should select the best fonts having Chinese (Taiwan) characters first, then go to the best Latin fonts to meet Chinese (Taiwan) users' need.
3. There is no evidence indicating mixing Latin characters provided by Latin fonts with Chinese characters provided by CJK fonts will be the best default experience. Actullay, that will sacrifice the consistency when there is Latin and CJK text displaying on the screen at the same time, because Latin characters and CJK characters are in different flavors.
3. Selecting fonts including Chinese (Taiwan) characters first in the configuration provides the best compatibilty for Chinese with those programs which do not follow the fallback machenism of fontconfig, such as Evince. The programs like that only pick up the first font, DejaVu font, and displaying squares for Chinese characters.
4. People still have the freedom to edit the configuration or add new rules, there is no harm selecting those font strings including Chinese (Taiwan) characters first in zh_TW configuration.
Please consider to choose the CJK fonts before the Latin fonts. |
Binary package hint: language-selector
Now the setting of 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf picks up the Latin fonts first, then fallback to Chinese fonts. By default, ubuntu only installs DejaVu font family and WenQuanYi Micro Hei font.
DejaVu is a high quality Latin fontfamily which has ExtraLight, Condensed, Book, Condensed Italic...and many more styles. WenQuanYi Micro Hei font covers Latin, Chinese, Japanese and Korean, but only has Regular, Italic, Bold and Bold Italic styles.
However, there is no need to pick up the Latin fonts first. I am here to suggest a better configuration by the reasons below:
1. As far as I have known, WenQuanYi Micro Hei font provied all the typefaces which DejaVu fontfamily covers, but lack of Condensed, EtralLight and some other styles.
2. The order of languages most used by Chinese (Taiwan) users is: Chinese > English > Japanese > Korean > other Western languages(eg. French, Spanish, German, Russia...). Ideally, the system should select the best fonts having Chinese (Taiwan) characters first, then go to the best Latin fonts to meet Chinese (Taiwan) users' need.
3. There is no evidence indicating mixing Latin characters provided by Latin fonts with Chinese characters provided by CJK fonts will be the best default experience. Actullay, that will sacrifice the consistency when there is Latin and CJK text displaying on the screen at the same time, because Latin characters and CJK characters are in different flavors. However, many users insist on using DejaVu fontfamily to display the Latin characters. The same visual appearance is reserved by the proposed configuration.
3. Selecting fonts including Chinese (Taiwan) characters first in the configuration provides the best compatibilty for Chinese characters with those programs which do not follow the fallback machenism of fontconfig, such as Evince, to be readable. The programs like that only pick up the first font, DejaVu font, and displaying squares for Chinese characters. With this improved configuration, the problem still can be found out by the "Latin characters" part which should be DejaVu but not WenQuanYi Micro Hei.
4. People still have the freedom to edit the configuration or add new rules, there is no harm selecting those font strings including Chinese (Taiwan) characters first in zh_TW configuration.
Please consider to choose the CJK fonts before the Latin fonts. |
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2011-03-28 10:48:18 |
airplanez |
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2011-03-28 14:20:50 |
Keng-Yu Lin |
attachment added |
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test.PDF https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/713950/+attachment/1949914/+files/test.PDF |
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2011-03-29 08:44:28 |
airplanez |
removed subscriber Ubuntu CJK Testers |
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2011-04-04 03:56:26 |
Gunnar Hjalmarsson |
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added subscriber Gunnar Hjalmarsson |
2011-04-11 11:30:00 |
Kevin Huang |
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added subscriber Kevin Huang |
2011-04-13 23:57:26 |
Fumihito YOSHIDA |
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2011-04-18 10:14:48 |
Mitsuya Shibata |
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2011-04-19 06:54:51 |
Cheng-Chia Tseng |
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Diff Between Current Setting and SelectChineseFontFirst+LatinFontsBinding https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/713950/+attachment/2065550/+files/Improved-zh-tw-config.diff |
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2011-04-19 17:31:20 |
Brian Murray |
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2011-04-19 17:31:22 |
Brian Murray |
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2011-04-26 17:09:40 |
V字龍(Vdragon) |
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added subscriber 林博仁 |
2011-06-25 16:52:24 |
Launchpad Janitor |
branch linked |
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lp:~gunnarhj/language-selector/oneiric |
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2011-06-25 16:52:41 |
Gunnar Hjalmarsson |
language-selector (Ubuntu): status |
Confirmed |
In Progress |
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2011-06-25 16:52:41 |
Gunnar Hjalmarsson |
language-selector (Ubuntu): assignee |
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Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj) |
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2011-06-25 17:00:17 |
Gunnar Hjalmarsson |
branch linked |
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lp:language-selector |
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2011-07-13 15:05:12 |
Launchpad Janitor |
language-selector (Ubuntu): status |
In Progress |
Fix Released |
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2011-07-14 06:20:49 |
Launchpad Janitor |
branch linked |
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lp:ubuntu/language-selector |
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2014-04-08 05:09:46 |
Taihsiang Ho |
bug |
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added subscriber Taihsiang Ho |
2014-04-08 14:15:25 |
Keng-Yu Lin |
language-selector (Ubuntu): status |
Fix Released |
Triaged |
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2014-04-08 14:15:42 |
Keng-Yu Lin |
nominated for series |
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Ubuntu Trusty |
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2014-04-08 15:25:14 |
Gunnar Hjalmarsson |
language-selector (Ubuntu): status |
Triaged |
Fix Released |
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