Improve Traditional Chinese default input method list in Raring

Bug #1120833 reported by Ma Hsiao-chun on 2013-02-10
This bug affects 3 people
Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
language-selector (Ubuntu)
Gunnar Hjalmarsson

Bug Description

Let's review default Traditional Chinese input methods in other big OS first.

Also note that Zhuyin = Phonetic, Jianyi = Quick.
The common factor is indeed Phonetic, Cangjie, Quick.

Then let's check our default list for Traditional Chinese, it is ibus-chewing and ibus-table-cangjie.

ibus-chewing is indeed a Phonetic input method, we are fine.
ibus-table-cangjie is a virtual package for ibus-table-cangjie3, ibus-table-cangjie5, ibus-table-cangjie-big.
Do we need three Cangjie input methods? I guess not.
cangjie3 and cangjie5 represents two versions of Cangjie scheme, so we need them both at this moment.
cangjie-big covers wider range of Chinese character; some of them are so rarely used that I've never seen in my life.
So I guess it should be removed from default install since its audience is limited and some, if not many characters are cannot be rendered by our default Chinese fonts.

We don't have a Quick input method.
I guess ibus-quick-classic is the best candidate.
It resemble Windows Quick input method most; you know, even OS X users may switch to a third-party input method to get Windows-like experience back.

If the above is TL; DR, my suggestion is that we change the default list to ibus-chewing, ibus-table-cangjie3, ibus-table-cangjie5, ibus-table-quick-classic.

Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj) wrote :

Hi Ma, and thanks for the proposal!

To me personally it doesn't matter much. They all generate those beautiful characters that I don't understand. ;-)

Have you talked about it with other users who speak traditional Chinese? I'm asking since we usually try to achieve some level of consensus in the CJK community about changes like these.

I prepared a branch with your suggested changes, but haven't yet proposed that they are uploaded.

Changed in language-selector (Ubuntu):
assignee: nobody → Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj)
importance: Undecided → Medium
status: New → In Progress
Shu Hung (Koala) (koalay) wrote :

We definitely want Quick to be installed by default. Cangjie and Quick is about 50-50 to all Chinese input market here. Others are nearly zero. We usually got asked "how to install Quick" here.

Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj) wrote :

Thanks, Shu Hung! Fair enough; I placed the proposal in the sponsorship queue.

Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :

This bug was fixed in the package language-selector - 0.104

language-selector (0.104) raring; urgency=low

  * data/pkg_depends:
    List of input methods for traditional Chinese modified. Thanks to
    Ma Xiaojun for the proposal (LP: #1120833).
  * LanguageSelector/
    When a language is removed, don't remove packages that are not
    language specific (LP: #37707).
 -- Gunnar Hjalmarsson <email address hidden> Tue, 12 Feb 2013 05:25:22 +0100

Changed in language-selector (Ubuntu):
status: In Progress → Fix Released
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